DID BISHOP DESMOND WILLIAMS OF DUBLIN ABUSE TRAVELLER CHILDREN?
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| 1930 - 2006 |
AFTER THE RECENT ACCUSATIONS BY FATHER BILL MULVIHILL THAT ARCHBISHOP DIARMUID MARTIN USED A RENT BOY IN ITALY THERE IS NOW ANOTHER SHOCKING STORY COMING OUT ABOUT DUBLIN.
THE ALLEGATION IS THAT THE NOW DECEASED AUXILIARY BISHOP OF DUBLIN, DESMOND WILLIAMS ABUSED MINORS FROM THE TRAVELLING COMMUNITY!
As you can see below from the Dublin archdiocese press release Bishop Williams, as Father Williams worked a lot with the Travelling Community.
It has been alleged that the Archdiocese of Dublin paid large sums of money to the abused children's families in the Travelling Community.
PRESS RELEASE
24 FEBRUARY 2006
DEATH OF BISHOP DESMOND WILLIAMS
RETIRED AUXILIARY BISHOP OF DUBLIN
The sudden death has occurred on Friday (24/2) of retired Auxiliary Bishop
of Dublin, Dr. Desmond Williams. Bishop Williams was 76.
of Dublin, Dr. Desmond Williams. Bishop Williams was 76.
Archbishop Diarmuid Martin said he and priests of the Diocese were greatly
saddened by this news. Dr. Martin said Bishop Williams was a person whose
work for the poor of Dublin was extraordinary, done quietly, without fanfare.
“He was a most caring person,” said Archbishop Martin, “whose life influenced
the lives of many people in all spheres of life throughout the Diocese.”
saddened by this news. Dr. Martin said Bishop Williams was a person whose
work for the poor of Dublin was extraordinary, done quietly, without fanfare.
“He was a most caring person,” said Archbishop Martin, “whose life influenced
the lives of many people in all spheres of life throughout the Diocese.”
Bishop Williams was born in Dun Laoire April 1930. He was educated by the
Christian Brothers at Eblana Avenue. He studied for the priesthood at Holy
Cross College, Clonliffe and the Gregorian University in Rome. Ordained
in June 1955 he was a chaplain to Presentation College, Bray and taught
in Bray Vocational school for a year.
Christian Brothers at Eblana Avenue. He studied for the priesthood at Holy
Cross College, Clonliffe and the Gregorian University in Rome. Ordained
in June 1955 he was a chaplain to Presentation College, Bray and taught
in Bray Vocational school for a year.
In 1958 he joined the staff of Archbishop’s House and a year later became
secretary to Archbishop John Charles Mc Quaid. When Dr. Mc Quaid retired 12
years later Monsignor Williams remained a secretary at Archbishops House
but was given special responsibility for diocesan finance and pastoral
development by Archbishop Ryan. In this role he helped develop the SHARE
fund in 1974, set up to allow all parishes collectively help with the
development of Churches, schools, community facilities and the running of
the Dublin Diocese as a whole. In 1976 he was appointed Episcopal vicar
for finance fort he diocese.
secretary to Archbishop John Charles Mc Quaid. When Dr. Mc Quaid retired 12
years later Monsignor Williams remained a secretary at Archbishops House
but was given special responsibility for diocesan finance and pastoral
development by Archbishop Ryan. In this role he helped develop the SHARE
fund in 1974, set up to allow all parishes collectively help with the
development of Churches, schools, community facilities and the running of
the Dublin Diocese as a whole. In 1976 he was appointed Episcopal vicar
for finance fort he diocese.
In 1959 he founded St. Kevin’s football club in Whitehall and helped it
expand into one of the largest of its kind in Europe, fielding over 40
competitive teams each week.
expand into one of the largest of its kind in Europe, fielding over 40
competitive teams each week.
In 1980 he became chairman of the Catholic Social Service Conference, now
Crosscare, the social care agency of the Archdiocese. Under his direction
the agency was modernised, updated and expanded towards the multi service
agency that is Crosscare today, providing vital programmes to the poor
and marginalised in the capital. Originally appointed for a three year
term, he served for 10, five years as a Bishop. He was appointed Auxiliary
Bishop in April 1985.
Crosscare, the social care agency of the Archdiocese. Under his direction
the agency was modernised, updated and expanded towards the multi service
agency that is Crosscare today, providing vital programmes to the poor
and marginalised in the capital. Originally appointed for a three year
term, he served for 10, five years as a Bishop. He was appointed Auxiliary
Bishop in April 1985.
Under his chairmanship the CSSC emphasised that its work was directed towards
helping the poor to realise their human dignity and potential, as well as
being empowered to speak for themselves and change the society of which they
are a part. He lived for some time at Trudder House, a residential home for
travellers at Newtownmountkennedy, which he helped develop. Bishop Williams had a special pastoral concern for Travellers.
helping the poor to realise their human dignity and potential, as well as
being empowered to speak for themselves and change the society of which they
are a part. He lived for some time at Trudder House, a residential home for
travellers at Newtownmountkennedy, which he helped develop. Bishop Williams had a special pastoral concern for Travellers.
In 1990 after 30 years in the central administration of the diocese, he asked
to be relieved of his principal responsibilities in order to devote more time
to his pastoral work as Bishop.
to be relieved of his principal responsibilities in order to devote more time
to his pastoral work as Bishop.
He also served as chairman of the Diocesan committee for parish development
and renewal. He was appointed by the Bishops Conference as president of the
Council for Social Welfare and was also a member of the Bishop’s pastoral
emigrant and finance commissions.
and renewal. He was appointed by the Bishops Conference as president of the
Council for Social Welfare and was also a member of the Bishop’s pastoral
emigrant and finance commissions.
In December 1993 he tendered his resignation as auxiliary Bishop to Pope John
Paul II due to ill health. He did however, continue work visiting prison visits
and he kept an active interest in issues of penal reform.
Paul II due to ill health. He did however, continue work visiting prison visits
and he kept an active interest in issues of penal reform.
In later years he resided in the Holy Family Residence in Roebuck Road, where
he died this evening (Friday). Funeral arrangements will be announced later.
he died this evening (Friday). Funeral arrangements will be announced later.
Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam dilis.
Ends
24 February 2006
24 February 2006
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FATHER BILL MULVIHILL
In recent times Fr. Bill Mulvihill has revealed that Father Sean J Quinn abused boys in Blackrock Parish in Armagh archdiocese and that three of those victims have killed themselves and another is in hospital.
This has been reported to Archbishop Eamon Martin and Father Quinn is still in his parish.
The safeguarding officer of Armagh has confirmed that they have reported Father Quinn to the authorities TWICE.
And yet Amy leaves him in a parish!!!
COVER UP !!!!
I ASKED AIDAN GORDON THE ARMAGH SAFEGUARDING OFFICER IF FATHER QUINN HAS STOOD DOWN PENDING THE INVESTIGATION
NO ANSWER !!!!!
What makes you ask that question of the deceased Bishop Williams? Have you verifiable evidence to support the implicit judgment of your question? Be brave and honest.
ReplyDeletePat. You really are barking up the wrong tree with regards to Des Williams, he was REALLY pure as the driven snow.
ReplyDeletePay mmore attention to my last post, repeated here:
Pat Buckley. I am enraged to see Fr Patrick O'Donoghue conducting the choirs at the opening of the WMF in The RDS this evening. This man has a cloud hanging over him, as DM well knows. Why has he been banished from the Dublin Diocesan Lourdes Pilgrimage for the last few years? Accusations were made against him by a young musician at the pro-cathedral and he was removed from there, to be chaplain to enclosed nuns on Iona Rd. He is a known gay activist who has corrupted many seminarians in Clonliffe Seminary in Dublin and should not be in ministry of any kind. He is a nasty evil man. DM is up to his neck in shit.
Who is making these allegations?
ReplyDeleteHomosexuality has done huge damage to the Church.
ReplyDeleteNo, y' fool; it hasn't. But this gross confection has: lust, clericalism, abuse of authority and power, and personal violence.
DeleteLearn to think for yourself: to be an individual rather than repeat hackneyed mantras offered as explanation for the Church's obvious demise.😆
MC @ 09:18, you are very, very wrong. The infestation of homosexuals into the ranks of the priesthood and episcopate has caused the church to become a weak corrupt and hypocritical organization. The Church is going through its biggest ever purification because of all these liars who lied their way all through seminary and will lie until their dying day. Lies & deceit is their way of life. But God is now exposing everything to the light.
DeleteTriggered, just saying like ��
DeleteWell said mate
DeleteI agree with Magna- its not gay priests or religious who have caused the problem. From the day the Church was founded gay people were always members of the body of Christ and occupied high Ecclesiastical office. It's the clericalism, abuse of power and authority and the twisted sense of what the priesthood is. Look back in church history the Borgia Popes were not gay- but twisted evil men.
Delete10:16, what was 'infesting' the Church at the time of the Crusades? It wasn't homosexuality. Yet the period was, arguably, one of the most morally despairing times in Church history. And what was 'infesting' the Church at the time (centuries-long) of the Papal Inquisition? It wasn't homosexualiity. And yet, it too was one of the morally darker periods in Church history.
DeleteEvil enters the Church through human hearts opened to it by pride, vanity, conceit, lust for power and domination, and much else besides. Its admittance requires human consent and facilitation...something a sexual orientation cannot provide.
Homosexuality, like its existential counterpart, is morally neutral: neither can consent to the destructive capability of evil. But you, like many others, are intent on blaming an orientation for something for which it cannot be held responsible, since it has not the capability. It is called homophobia. And its root is hatred and fear, and the withering irrationality they together spawn.
01:59
DeletePerhaps it’s the way same-sex attraction has been dealt with by the church which has done a d is doing the damage.
12:26, that is precisely Mary McAleese's point.
DeletePeople, priests in particular, are being driven by the strictures this unjust teaching causes into secretive, morally forbidden, and deviant sexual behaviours.
For Pope Francis to claim, effectively, that there is no similarity whatever between gay unions and heterosexual marriages is unobjectifiable nonsense and an outright lie.
Francis is relying on what he regards as his duty to protect the 'deposit' of traditional Church teaching, whether it is right or wrong, rather than on his more sacred duty to ascertain truth, regardless of this teaching.
Would Francis have moved as far as he did on ruling capital punishment to be morally inadmissable if JPII had not done the intellectual spadework against it beforehand? I doubt it, because popes tend to show unwavering loyalty to the teaching of their predecessors.
Ah Magna, so easily triggered. Clearly a sore topic.
DeleteIt is beyond shocking that Quinn is left in a parish. That Eamon Martin is nothing but a weak, effeminate, limp wristed, indecisive little boy who is afraid of his own shadow. The likes of him as primate of Ireland is a result of Divine Wrath for the sins of the church here.
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ReplyDeleteGood to know, thanks.
DeleteMultiple sources, along with former seminarians — fed up with the cover-ups — led Church Militant to Fr. John Lavers, called in to head up a top-level investigation which then discovered the existence of the seminarian pipeline.
ReplyDeleteThe investigation, when we began in April/May of 2012, revealed that there was a wide network of seminarians which were involved in abnormal behavior and homosexual activity spreading across a number of dioceses in the eastern part of the United States. This also involved a number of dioceses and a number of clergy within those dioceses actively supporting and participating in the homosexual activities that the seminarians were also involved in.
https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/episcopal-sodomy-gay-seminarian-pipeline
Church Militant run by a group of evil queens headed by Miss Voris, who live double lives as gay men but are stridently homophobic... all because of being rejected by other gay men.
DeleteHi Brendan / Stephen / Fanny
DeleteOhh 11:12, hits a sore spot that all the double dealing is coming out? Voris was honest about his past. Same cannot be said for many current clerics.
DeleteI have never heard of the late Bishop Williams.
ReplyDeleteSo let's be clear. The Archdiocese of Armagh have reported Quinn to the Guards, but have left him in active ministry? Is this correct?
ReplyDeleteYES!
DeleteSo it would seem.😕
DeleteAnon 6.04 - "The concept of presumption of innocence is fundamental to the Irish legal system and is internationally recognised as an essential safeguard. It is the cornerstone of the criminal justice system. An accused person is presumed innocent until proved guilty." These allegations are the rantings of a very sick mam where is his proof plus if he knew of this why wait until now to disclose, to be it looks as if he was holding this information until it suited his needs as I believe he doesnt want to be moved from his current parish
ReplyDeleteAnon 09:10, How do you know that Fr Bill is very sick? Are you a qualified psychiatrist? Let's see how things play out before casting such aspersions on the whistleblower. I have known many men of sound mental state who were driven to drink over the corruption they encountered within the Church.
DeleteAnon @ 09:10: The presumption of innocence is a good principle, but not appropriate where suspected child abuser remains in contact with potentially vulnerable children. Good child protection/social work practice actively seeks separation of suspect and alleged victim both for protection and avoidance of witness coercion. In this case as "suspect " is deceased these issues don't arise. But you do rightly raise an important principle in this case. MMM
DeleteThis man O'Donoghue is the manipulative 'controller' of many of DM's inner circle. He operates in very insidious ways and exercises influence by remote control. He is a regular at well known Gay bars in Dublin City. All this is known by DM.
ReplyDeleteThe sight of him last night conducting the choir nearly made me vomit. The rot is well advanced in Dublin.
I can well imagine your anguish @ 9.13 when watching "him conducting the choir" made you vomit .. Jealousy can have that effect on you... Disturbing and corrosive.. Try to wish others well.
DeletePat- has the designated officer of the Archdiocese of Armagh placed the responsibility for disclosing the allegations with you? I would hope that this is not the case as Cardinal Brady clearly outlined when he was approached for non disclosure a few years ago that he didn't have the responsibility for doing so as he was not the designated person! So who has responsibility for disclosure? I am now confused - is it the person with the information or the designated person? Perhaps the Church should be more clear about this.
ReplyDeleteDisclosure and safeguarding all comes under each Dioceses Director of Safeguarding or who ever it is in that role in the appropriate dioceses.
DeleteThe Safeguarding Officers relate to the Civil Authorities and then report to the Archbishop / Bishop of the diocese concerned.
It is then up to the Archbishop or Bishop to take appropriate action on the advice.
I'm an ex Clonfiffe seminarian of the 1990's. I witnessed POD operating first hand. Clandestine meetings with targeted seminarians happened constantly, liberal use of alcohol presumably as a leg opener. Several young fellows were messed up by this guy and by Fr Gay Slattery who was another predatory devil. Thankfully his is out of ministry while POD prances about in the RDS with impunity. It all stinks to high heaven.
ReplyDeleteWhy has this guy been hiding in plain sight?
DeleteIn USA a few bishops such as Morlino of Madison and Aquila of Denver have resorted to the predictable if desperate measure of blaming all the woes of the Church on homosexuality - convenient scapegoat given the vast majority of cases - and also the so called contraceptive mentality in which narrative a virtuous Church preaches against social evils. HOWEVER evil is manifested not among homosexuals living perfectly normal lives in every other sector of society let alone in the completely unremarkable use of contraception, but in the priesthood itself, which of its own stunted and thwarted nature attracts disturbed men either in destructive denial of their sexuality or who get their kicks from leading a double life. THIS is the perversion at the heart of the Catholic priesthood. The evidence that the bishops themselves appear to exhibit the Keith O’Brien syndrome should lead civil authorities across the world to remove their poisonous influence, particularly where they have contact with the young. It’s not just about the laity taking back control, but politicians disempowering these grotesque figures from involvement in schools, hospitals, social services ... where they have betrayed their duty of care and instead prey upon the vulnerable.
ReplyDeleteBRAVO!At last someone talking sense!
DeleteMary McAleese said:
Delete“A phenomenon that I have found very commonly are what I call the ‘fake hetero homophobes’ within the clergy, who live double lives as gay men and women, but who [wear a veil] that is really stridently homophobic.”
“And when I think of the damage that they can cause, they themselves are very damaged human beings.”
Bp Pat was first, but now Mary McAleese is turning up the heat on the Catholic Church.
I think she will start challenging businesses who say they promote equality and diversity, but sponsor events like WMoF who exclude LGBT participation.
Who gives a hang what deluded Mary McAleese says? Now we know why she is talking non stop about her gay Son. It seems our Mary is trying to promote his chances of being elected to the Dail when the next elections happen. His motto for being a Fianna Fail candidate is pro Abortion, pro women's rights, pro LGBTQ+, pro equality.
DeleteSorry to inform you but many do give a hang12.01.
DeleteYes we have read your speil elsewhere....so what.
Isn’t he entitled to go into politics if he so wishes.
Appears to me that you are a very jealous person
Thank god most people are willing to listen and LEARN.
Maybe you should try that too,
10.52: To draw your premise to its logical conclusion: Are people like Fr. Peter McVerry, Br. Kevin, Sr. Stanislaus Kennedy and Sr. Consilio and other good, selfless and caring priests and religious who have initiated so many worthy charities and projects all to be consigned to the dustbin? We would be a much impoverished country without their witness to true, real, vibrant and inspiring gospel living and witness to Christ. Like many before them they have contributed - and continue to do so - to the cause of justice for the forgotten, the poor, the homeless, the hurt and broken of our society. Just wondering what your level of cintribution is to dismantling the horrible injustices in our society! Easy to criticise from the comfort of an armchair sitting in front of your laptop.....
ReplyDeleteWhether my chair is any more comfortable than your own is surely irrelevant, though a recognizable if clumsy attempt to discredit. Your main point is reasonable, but I do not dismiss the lives and works of individual priests and religious. I have previously drawn attention to Archbishop Raymond Hunthausen RIP, but he demonstrated his exceptionalism among his fellow American bishops. It would be a pity if the achievements of those you mention were diminished by association, but I should guess that they themselves would recognize this is bound to happen now the Church cannot be trusted PERIOD. I do also have a problem with charity in place of justice, which has been the tendency in much, though by no means all, social engagement driven by religious agenda. Moreover there has been a tendency to turn those religious activists into heroes and saints, which I think has rather compounded the problem by somehow putting priests and nuns generally on a pedestal. Most of us, including me, I hope, try to live with a duty of care and responsibility for others and for the planet without expecting to be canonized for our modest efforts - especially when carried out from the outrageous comfort of an armchair. I’m sorry Father McVerry and Sr Stan have never known such a luxury, but no doubt are more virtuous for the lack of one.
Delete12.10: A very reasonable, balanced response to my comment of 11.20. The individuals I mentioned would indeed be embarrassed at any canonization of their virtues but without their voices our society would be very blind to the harsh realities of injustices. They deserve our support along with our admiration. Apart from these people there are of course hundreds of others wirking through Simon Community, Alice Leahy Trust, St. V.de Paul, Justice Ireland, ALONE and other worthy charities who give selflessly in caring for all who are in poverty, hurt and homelessness. Yes, as a priest I am ashamed of the state of our Church. I feel the steady decline (thank God) of a particular Church where power and authority were hugely abused, and still continuing, and which has caused almost irreparable damage to many. I try to keep going with some imagination and commitment but I realise the challenge which at times seems insurmountable. Yet, for now I can only try to make better the vineyard given to me to care for and make it a place of true welcome for all, love, caring and hospitality. I have little time for many comnentators on this blog as I feel they criticise, condemn and judge from the "outrageous" comfort of their armchair but who do little. I accept you are not one of those!
DeleteI agree, Father, and also strongly object to the stupid games and name calling which sometimes spread like a rash on this blog. I recognize that as a priest you are in an invidious position today, and feel guilty by association. In that sense you too and other decent men and women have been betrayed by your vicious and unprincipled colleagues. I don’t know who your bishop is, but dare say you are not going to get much support there. I hope you have good people around you, as I think it is going to get a lot worse.
DeleteSorry if we are not up to your standards 12.40
DeleteAs a contributor I will try harder.
Whilst I too agree with much of what you type12.40.
DeleteIsn’t it time to stand up and be counted...use your real I’d.
I’m just a 5/8 .i read here for enlightenment.
Sadly all the good is negated by the Lies, cover ups and downright duplicity which is NOW still going on. They just don't get it!
ReplyDeleteBut for most of them, their whole lives have been a lie. KOB, for example.
DeleteLots of media interest in Donegal it seems in the last week or so focusing on Philip Boyce again and his participation at WMOF in light of what Francis had to say on Bishops who knew about abuse. The New York Times have sent in their big guns to Donegal who are still there and they are working on an 'exclusive' on Eugene Greene and Boyce to coincide with Francis' arrival.
ReplyDeleteYesterday I just happened to come across a long article on ‘the lost children of Tuam’ from the NYT.
Deletehttps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/28/world/europe/tuam-ireland-babies-children.html
New York Times are all over the abuse in Ireland as we speak and have Boyce and Brady in their sights.
Delete@13.19 Thank you for the link, most interesting article that's well researched. Just a pity you have to pay a subscription to read the NYT.
DeleteShame on our own media for aiding the cover ups. The NYT might get somewhere. As for Eugene Greene, oh God, let the little children scream!
DeleteMary McAleese’s brilliant epithet “fake hetero homophobes” describes virtually every priest and religious I have ever met. It hardly makes for a balanced character or a happy life, so PLEASE let’s act now to keep them away from our children.
ReplyDeleteAn excellent descriptive term for these freaky he-virgins.
DeleteYou shouldn’t let them near your children.12.31
ReplyDeleteThought that was a given
Mary was one herself at one stage so she would know. Hypocrite doesn't cover it.
ReplyDeleteNow that Mary McAleese has opened up her well kept hidden secrets, she has encouraged an outrageous, unjust labelling of innocent priests and religious, almost enabling a hatred and bigotry to take hold in everyone's perceptions. She rages against "labelling" , yet she has engaged in vitriolic labelling of many church personnel. I find many of her utterances hypocritical and dishonest. As a Catholic, she does not speak for me. She does not articulate fairly or justly.
ReplyDeleteShe articulates fine by me
DeleteWhy don’t you come out of your shell and tell us all how it is if you are so enlightened.
Anonymous at 13:22
DeleteWell said, I agree Mad Mary needs to quit being so hypocritical, she's got a brass neck, and she's keeping it well polished!
13.22: You are right. This woman is engaging in a mocking, ridiculing labelling of priests and religious. She wasted no opportunity while President to visit parishes, schools, convents, Bishop's seminars, Church functions, praising and admiring the virtues, dedication, selfless commitment of many of them. Was it just a charade, a pretence? She's pure hypocrisy. Shouting against labelling but freely and arrogantly labelling church personnel. Unacceptable.
DeleteDon't tell me Mad Mary is at it again. The poor thing is struggling to stay relevant.
ReplyDeleteAnother jealous cleric I presume13.32
DeleteShe might be our next pope...who knows
And she appears to be doing so, given the level and heat of posts on her comments.😆
Delete13.50: I am not a cleric (13.22) but a very committed Catholic. I once admired Mary Mc but her out of office experience, withdrawal symptoms, has turned her into a moaning OTT queen. Her public outcry will hugely give her son a hugh profile for politics....opportunistic.
Delete13.50 I can assure you that I am no Cleric and if you think I'm jealous of McAleese then you are totally bonkers. She has nothing to be jealous of anyway the loudmouth cow.
DeleteLove that there were 2 of you answering the posting at 13.32
DeleteLol
The trauma of transitioning from the high and mighty office of president to mere citizen has proven too much for Mary. She needs to grandstand in the way she is doing to retain notice from the public, sad really.
ReplyDeleteNo, it was the shock of the son coming out along with being disinvited from some conference or other.
DeleteGo for it Mary...Her early life and education is standing in good stead for her now,
DeleteBeing president was just a little snapshot of her illustratious life.
Yep your observation is really sad.....13.46....maybe you gain a few tips from the writings and observations of Mary.
DeleteThat Mary McAleese is nothing but an attention seeking tramp. How dare she label all priests with such a label. Treasonous bitch should shut her fat trap and realise that she is no longer President of this little dot of an island.
ReplyDeleteFeeling better now13.52. If not do your own shouting out on the public platform
DeleteGo on you know you want to
And your language is so flowery you will certainly get a lot of publicity.
Ach sure 13.52 sure she should just let the ‘abusive’ priests do their own thing like they have been used to.
DeleteOur good and holy priests are many
But you 13 52 are a disgrace to humanity.
13.52: Brilliant - one day when no one will listen to her then she will disappear into the cowshed!! And that will happen soon as Ireland continues to leave its Catholicism behind....She is far too self absorbed trying to outdo everyone before Pope Francis. Put her on the altar at Phoenix Park and see how many would come to see her! Zero. Oh the sadness of not being president!!!
DeleteMary had a brilliant life long before she heard of a president.
DeleteI remember her at uni as provost..her knowledge and education and upbringing moulded her to who she is today.
Her detractors education was prob funded off a plate.
Mary McAleese is going to be a bigger headache for them... than Bp Pat, and that’s saying something.
DeleteThe hierarchy will have their hands full with Mary McAleese... and she's only just started.
DeleteVery sad but Mary is getting a hefty pension from the State whilst she shouts her mouth off. I've more respect for Mrs Robinson she was a Stateswoman and a Lady.
ReplyDeleteAh yes Red Robbo, ran away from the presidency of our country to grab a UN job.
Delete'...shouts her mouth off.'? Which, of course, is an oblique way of admitting that you 'find her annoying'.
DeleteNot ground for silencing her, I'm afraid. In Stalinist Russia? Bank on it! In the Roman Catholic Church? Yes, at one time, on pain of death.
But not in this democracy.
That's the problem with good, orthodox Roman Catholics, like you. You deplore democracy, as has always the institutional Church. Neither will expressly admit it, because at heart you're both authoritarian and dictatorial.
Welcome to the 21st century.😆
UN job was a proper job and more respected than running off to Rome to study Canon Law.
DeleteShe disrespected the office of President.
DeletePoor Mary never got over Justin's coming out! Her misdirected anger is really a measure of her lack of acceptance - despite her protestations to the opposite.
ReplyDelete13.55
ReplyDeleteThey are individuals each doing what she interested in.
Where is your salary coming from...a plate?
Both are woman
Ther word lady has connotations of upperclass..
Get real.
Both are 'women'.
DeleteWoman suits the narrative......!!!!!
DeleteI think everyone is getting a bit tired of McAleese's rantings at this stage. She has a gay son, so what? I must say I far more respect Mary Robinson as well. A lady and stateswoman indeed she is. McAleese should study her.
ReplyDeleteDear me, Mary has touched a nerve! More evidence from NCR that she is absolutely spot on: a priest speaking for the Archdiocese of Milwaukee - chequered history there to say the least - rails against a planned regular retreat organized by New Ways Ministry for gay priests, religious and deacons on the grounds that it sends the wrong signal to society. Now, though I’m not sure I’d be keen to go either, it seems that a safe and honest forum to discuss being gay and a priest is exactly what is needed, and society would generally say for God’s sake do it! What the reverend spokesman ( another priest not in a parish ) is itching to imply is that the crisis concerns not the priesthood - oh, dear me, no - but those evil gays ergo NOTHING TO DO WITH US! I suspect he is one of those who likes to tell from the pulpit how he gave up the chance to marry his girlfriend and become a baseball playing dad.
ReplyDeleteGreat cartoon today Pat, wd make a good cover for your next book.
ReplyDeleteNot me 14.07.....waiting on her next move and observation
ReplyDeleteYou ain’t seen nothing yet.
14.27: People driven by rage, anger and annoyance at not being noticed - like Mary Mc - can enable much bigotry, unjust labelling and hatred, as she is doing. She is very blind to her own faults and hypocrisy. A woman feted by the Church for 14 years as President and who praised every Bishop, priest and religious she met now feels it's ok to say what she likes. Arrogance of the worst kind. I don't hear her complain about or criticise her husband Martin for the poor report on Magdalen Laundries which many survivors criticised for its incomplete story and truth!!
DeleteI would hate to be a genuine hetero priest now. All these lying homosexuals have created an environment whereby even the decent ones are subjected to unfair scrutiny and slander. May God forgive them. Pat Buckley leads an honest life which others could learn from.
ReplyDeleteThe decent ones... which one is that?
DeleteHear hear!
DeleteGORGEOUS
ReplyDeleteByrne was passed around like a yoyo in the Dublin diocese and Maynooth. Byrne was used as a clerical rent boy.
I hope Michael Byrne is able to move on from those days and grow to be a better man with wisdom, kindness and compassion. He’s had a lucky escape, as he was corruptible, corrupted and corrupt - welcomed in fact to the club. Meanwhile across the Atlantic, Cardinal Tobin steps forward to claim he never knew anything at all about this kind of thing, but his priests are not to discuss it with the press. Hang on a minute: they are not to discuss matters nobody knows anything about anyway and officially don’t exist? And in London Nicholls sheds tears over matters he certainly knew a great deal about. Westminster is hardly squeaky clean, and beforehand he’d been sent to Birmingham to sort out the unresolved cases left by Couve de Murville - another liar who retired early “on health grounds”.
DeleteCan't you leave Byrne alone? He's yesterday's news. He's left so let him get on with his new life.
DeleteThough no doubt still fondly remembered by some. He should take credit that his antics focused attention on the diseased institution, of which as a Deacon he is still very much part of ACTUALLY. Which reminds me, how are matters proceeding with Conor Gannon’s case for defamation against the Irish Times, which reported goings on at the Irish College not dissimilar to .... well, every other seminary on the planet? Just wondering.
DeleteIn Prophetic words of the Cannon of Dublin, they are jealous of you because you are gorgous.
DeleteThe gospel of the family....Eamon Martin at the meeting of family’s today.
ReplyDeleteToo little too late methinks
16.02: Get a life, get a grip, you moaning gossip!
DeleteI didn’t hear him condemn the coverer uppers.
Delete15.38... I see a real scandal emerging if and when he sees sense and tells all
ReplyDeleteHe prob getting a weekly handout to keep quiet.
16:04 as mentioned previously you are jealous of him because he is gorgus
ReplyDeleteWhat's happened to Barking Mad Bill Mulvihill today?
ReplyDeleteMind your own business...gossiping nosy person.
ReplyDeleteJust worried about him. No posting whatsoever today so is he ok?
DeleteBill is fine. I can say that 100%
Delete20.36: Pity you don't give as much attention to the many innocent, good priests you so frequently impugn that you give to the mad, crazy, bizarre, weird 100% well Mulvihill. You don't do irony Buckkey?
Delete20.59: Yes indeed, what an amazing atmosphere at the RDS. Inspiring, welcoming, joyful, a prayerful Mass, huge crowds. Must annoy Pat and his hateful tribe. And to add to the sense of occasion the news of Pope Francis's drive through Dublin city on Saturday is fantastic. God is good.
DeleteWhy is Fr Kevin Reynolds mentioned in the Francis cartoon? Kevin was vindicated of false accusations. The journalist lost her job and the prime time team were disbanded. He was vindicated in the courts and RTÉ made a profound apology to him ‘he was entirely innocent of the allegations broadcast about him’
ReplyDelete17 22: He has found love on the banks of the Seine. Is staying in city of lights, bromance, culture....Pity beautiful Paris!!
ReplyDeleteJust back from a wonderful day on the RDS. Lovely Mass this evening with the Cardinal of Mumbai Cardinal Gracias. Huge attendance, beautiful music. I feel uplifted and renewed, the Lords presence was palpable!
ReplyDeleteHow dare you. Bishop Pat duress not allow positivity about the RC church here!
DeleteYa I'm sure it's a great show,
DeleteThe trouble with the Catholic church is that it's a display of so called faith, scratch beneath the surface and it's a different story as the revelations over the last decade prove.
There are none so blind as this who will not see! Your jaundiced view is sad,
DeleteMy opinion is Bourne out of my personnel expierance of the Catholic church,both as a child with paedophile priests and as a adult at the injustice at the cover up of those crimes.that is what is sad.
DeleteOur Mary on R T E now
ReplyDeleteHow many Jesuits in Dublin will go to see the visiting Jesuit ?
ReplyDeleteThey Have The Inside Story On This Fellow!!!
Mary’s programme last night was very enlightening and really enjoyable.
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