Thursday 20 September 2018

THE UNBEARABLE UGLINESS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

Damon Linker is a senior correspondent at TheWeek.com. He is also a consulting editor at the University of Pennsylvania Press, a former contributing editor at The New Republic, and the author of The Theocons and The Religious Test.

How will the Roman Catholic Church survive the scandals engulfing it on every side?

It's a hyperbolic question, but one with a serious intent.

Of course the church will continue to exist in some form. Two-thousand-year-old institutions with a billion adherents and solid growth rates in the developing world don't disappear overnight, no matter how thoroughly corrupt they are revealed to be.

But in what form will it survive?




Four decades ago, Ireland was among the most homogeneously and fervently Catholic countries in the world. When Pope John Paul II visited in 1979, he was greeted by crowds of well over a million people. Last weekend, three months after the overwhelming passage of a referendum that repealed the pro-life provision of the Irish constitution, Pope Francis addressed a crowd roughly one-tenth the size.

What has changed? In the intervening years, Irish Catholicism has been crushed by an avalanche of scandals involving the widespread decades-long abuse (sexual and otherwise) of children in the country's schools and childcare system.

Over the past few decades, similar scandals have been exposed in countries around the world. In most cases, clerics of various rank have been credibly accused of abusing (usually but not always male) children and teenagers, and of breaking celibacy vows with seminarians and others over whom they serve in positions of authority. When such acts have been brought to the attention of those higher up the church hierarchy, the accused have rarely been punished, often moved to new dioceses (where they have frequently repeated the behavior), and sometimes promoted to positions of great power and influence in the church.

The pattern has been repeated over and over and over again. Early in the 2000s, one wave of scandal crashed over the American church with allegations of abuse and cover-up roiling dioceses across the country, with the Archdiocese of Boston, overseen by the formidable Archbishop Cardinal Bernard Francis Law, hit especially hard. One priest in Boston allegedly raped or molested 130 children as church officials moved him from parish to parish over decades. In the end, a total of 271 members of the clergy were publicly accused of child sex abuse in Boston alone.

Sixteen years and roughly $3 billion in financial settlements later, the scandal is back. This time its focal point is Theodore McCarrick, the former archbishop of Washington, D.C. — a man who had been promoted to top positions in the church despite being credibly and repeatedly accused of a range of acts of sexual predation, including the years-long abuse of a boy (whom McCarrick had reportedly baptized as a baby) starting when he was 11 years old.
As if to underscore that the problem goes far beyond a single wayward prelate, the revelations about McCarrick, which broke in mid-July, were quickly followed by the release of an exhaustive (1,400-page) grand jury report that identified 1,000 cases of childhood sexual abuse at the hands of more than 300 Catholic priests in the single state of Pennsylvania (where I live with my wife and children). Other states are apparently preparing similar reports of their own.

Here is a summary from The Washington Post of a tiny sliver of what one will find in the report's squalid and scummy pages:

In Erie, a 7-year-old boy was sexually abused by a priest who then told him he should go to confession and confess his "sins" to that same priest.
Another boy was repeatedly raped from ages 13 to 15 by a priest who bore down so hard on the boy's back that it caused severe spine injuries. He became addicted to painkillers and later died of an overdose.

One victim in Pittsburgh was forced to pose naked as Christ on the cross while priests photographed him with a Polaroid camera. Priests gave the boy and others gold cross necklaces to mark them as being "groomed" for abuse. [The Washington Post]

Finally — for now — there's the astonishing memo by Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò that was published over the weekend, alleging that numerous high-ranking church officials, including Pope Francis himself, knew about McCarrick's record of abuse for many years and yet repeatedly promoted and protected him from sanctions (including those imposed by Pope Benedict XIV).

The most common response among church watchers to this utterly sordid display has been to render moral judgment and then assimilate the facts — priests abused kids; bishops covered up for it — into pre-existing ideological storylines. So conservatives blame a culture of homosexuality in the church that needs to be rooted out once and for all in favor of a stricter adherence to long-standing teachings about human sexuality. Liberals, for their part, think the problem is a culture of clericalism and hypocrisy bred by cruel, sexually stultifying rules that need to be reformed in the direction of tolerance and acceptance.

Both sides have a point, but both sides utterly fail to grasp the gravity of what's happening right before our eyes. Church attendance has been in sharp decline for a lot longer than 16 years. The number of young Catholics choosing to become priests and nuns has been shrinking even faster. According to polls, an astonishing 98 percent of Catholics in the U.S. reject the church's teaching on contraception. Catholic women are just as likely as non-Catholic women to have an abortion, while Catholics as a whole are more likely than the average American to support same-sex marriage.

And now this tsunami of scandal? A decade and a half after Cardinal Law resigned in disgrace (only to be given a compensatory luxurious sinecureat the Vatican)? Does anyone seriously believe those pews won't be far, far emptier a decade from now, once the remaining parishioners absorb the reality that a church hierarchy that gets off on wagging its crooked little finger at the behavior of lay Catholics behaves behind closed doors as if it considers those impossibly stringent teachings to be a colossal joke?
The core of the church's problem isn't personal immorality, or institutional corruption, or hypocrisy. The core of the problem is ugliness.

People too often fail to appreciate the role of beauty in religion. We point to revelatory experiences — a supposed eruption of the divine into the realm of the profane or an apparition that communicates a personal message of salvation. Or we highlight a vision of moral righteousness or purity that draws us toward a life of piety.

But there is also the beautiful — in the sense of seemliness, order, and proportion, but also elevation, nobility, and exaltation. My friend Rod Dreher writes movingly about how he was originally drawn toward Christianity by a visit as a young man to Chartres Cathedral in France, one of the most stunning religious structures ever built. Standing before and within this astonishing monument to God, Dreher for the first time felt the presence of the divine in the world and in his life. For him, the building was a powerful testament to the truth of the Christian message.

The singular importance of beauty or nobility to the most profound moral and religious experience was noted centuries before Christ in the dialogues of Plato, where the character of Socrates frequently asks his interlocutors searching questions about elevation. What do we admire? What acts stir us and move us to tears? Often it is those acts involving self-sacrifice, devotion to something loftier, something purportedly higher. In the secular sphere, this is something John McCain understood very well: By serving something higher than ourselves, and by devoting ourselves to it selflessly, we elevate ourselves, lifting ourselves up in the direction of eternity. (In McCain's vision of fervent American patriotism, this something was an ideal vision of the United States.)

When I converted to the Catholic Church 18 years ago, I did so in large part because I was deeply moved by the act of self-sacrifice that the church places at its heart. God sacrifices his beloved son, and his son freely accepts that sacrifice, out of self-giving love for humanity. Out of that breathtakingly beautiful gesture, the church built a new civilization founded on a message of forgiveness of sins, of care for the poor, of beatitude, of salvation and eternal life for all.

Of course the history of the church is filled with imperfection, of violence, of all-too-human sin and corruption. But monuments to the church's message were everywhere to behold: art and architecture, an intellectual tradition, a comprehensive moral and eschatological vision of all things from first to last, a politics founded on a belief in the equal dignity of all. If I didn't really believe in all of the theological precepts taught by the church, at least I wanted to — because I considered them beautiful, and because I wanted to be a part of the beauty, to elevate myself by assimilating myself to it.

That impulse seems very far away from me now. It began to fade in the church scandals that broke less than two years after I entered the church. The crisis deepened by working for a devout priest who responded to the scandals by circling the wagons against the secular press and its impertinent reporters looking to harm the church with their pesky attachment to uncovering the truth.

My belief has faded further over the intervening years, as I've tried to keep some spark of it alive long enough to give my children the Catholic education that from the moment of my conversion I was obligated to provide them. I fulfilled that duty — and now all I can say is that I'm so grateful that my son and daughter escaped the church without suffering the fate of 300 of their fellow Pennsylvanians.

The world can be a dangerous place. My kids could be abused and violated anywhere. I'm not a helicopter parent out to protect them from any and all risk. But to wade through the toxic sludge of the grand jury report; to follow the story of Theodore McCarrick's loathsome character and career; to confront the allegations piled up in Viganò's memo — it is to come face to face with monstrous, grotesque ugliness. It is to see the Catholic Church as a repulsive institution — or at least one permeated by repulsive human beings who reward one another for repulsive acts, all the while deigning to lecture the world about its sin.

No thanks. I'm done.

And I bet I'll have a lot of company headed for the door.

PAT SAYS:

I find the above article to be both sad and true.

I sat on my grandmother's knee as a baby and infant and she taught me about God and my prayers.

She read the Blessed Martin de Porres magazine to me.

I was brought to Mass daily from the age of 4.

At that age I said I wanted to be a "peest".

I never veered from that path.

I entered seminary at 18 and was ordained at 24.

Then I met the clerical world.

From Day 1 I knew I was not one of them.

It went from worse to worse.

In the past 20+ years I have, with everyone seen the pus flowing from the wounds.

Jesus meant the Church to be his beautiful spotless bride.

The Pharisees of each age have truly turned into the Whore of Babylon.

The only answer is to flee the whore, and her "representatives" and return to the Biblical Christ.



85 comments:

  1. Pat, thanks for producing this article which I find very challenging as a priest. I share the author's depth analysis, insights and clarity. It is difficult to read it and not feel tempted to "get out" of what I am part of - The Institutional Church. I welcome challenges like this article but I am almost lost as to how I continue to live with credibility and witness, both of which have been shattered into fragments. I feel in light of all the scandals and ones still unfolding that any "good" which I have done in 40 years is uprooted and undone, been deemed irrelevant, is surrounded by questions about my motives. The constant imagery and narrative has wiped out what, for me, is my life's commitment. Along with many colleagues I've tried to effect necessary changes, at least at a personal level and in my parishes and have tried to ditch the clericalism which I never wanted to be part of. I don't share your particular views Pat; they are too vindictive to inspire me to follow a different spiritual way. For now, I stay but only to attempt to nourish the Body of Christ in my parish, reaching out to the hurt, broken and wounded, trying to be inclusive, caring for all, welcoming kindly all who are with me. I protest against the corruption which is destroying the beauty of Christ's vision. But I see the beauty and light in the people I work among, hoping they see my efforts and service for their good and well being. I am drawn to keep with the Church because like Damon - author - I have always found solace, hope, enlightenment in the Church's art, music, mystical poetry, its' Saints, the theology of the Eucharist, the vision of the gospel of Jesus. From a young age these drew me to search deeply, to reflect and - such was the great selfless dedication of my parents in teaching us about faith, prayer and the Mass along with the wonderful witness to ministry by some priests and religious in my parish while growing up that I was born into a religious landscape which I cherished. The values instilled into me are still there but my love for my Church is dimmed and being quickly diminished. Now I am seeing through many broken splinters. The beauty is damaged, an ugliness has broken in and yet I believe a restoration of beauty as God wants it to be - as given by Jesus - is a salvation, a cleansing once again. I want to be part of this, however difficult and whatever uprooting it will cause in my life. Using foul, petty and ugly words do not belong to this serious discussion and inviting the crowds to tread across paths and fields is not working either. I will reflect very seriously on this powerful article.

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    1. Father, Thank you for that thoughtful and sincere comment.

      Renewing the institution would be like turning over a beached whale with a tea spoon.

      With God's help that could be done.

      But God has also walked away from the institution!

      Of course he is still there with and for his People.

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  2. You are so far away from the Bible and the Biblical Christ that I can't believe you actually read the Bible and understand it. The word love is so diluted now by many in the Church that it has been completely emptied of all it's rich Christological content. Love is lived daily by saints of all walks of life, not emptily preached by people who equate love with ephemeral sentiments.

    I am a Catholic who am completely reviled and repulsed by the lies, cover-ups and what can only be described as satanic abuse. It is the protectors and enablers of sexual abusers that will have far more to answer for on the day of judgement than the actual abusers themselves, who were/are obviously extremely sick people. However, your version of religion would only hasten the return of a paganised culture like that of ancient Rome & Greece in which pederasty and paedophilia were rampant. It was the pure waters of the truths of the Scriptures and Catholic Tradition which purified Europe after the collapse of the Roman Empire. The virtues of chastity and chivalry were esteemed and aspired to; virtues which were not known in previous times.

    The Church will be renewed as it always is by those who quietly pray,fast, sacrifice and practice real virtue. Not by people who decide that they know better than the revealed Word of God.

    I pray for you daily .

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    1. Well it is culture weekend so letsus all get out and celebrate our different cultures.
      Tray bakes replace food banks.Rock music replaces the preachers.

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    2. The Church - the People of God - the Body of Christ is always been renewed by the Holy Spirit.

      The hierarchial and clerical institution is a cancer on that Body.

      It must be surgically removed and its roots destroyed.

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    3. Pat, hierarchy is so embedded in the human psyche that no organised group of humans can operate without one. Whether you like it or not, God has willed that nature be hierarchical with God Himself at the top. Aren't you the bishop of the Oratory? (i.e. at the top of your community). If not, why are you a bishop? As you know, bishop comes from the Greek word "episkopos", which means overseer. Why bother with overseeing if you don't believe in hierarchies?

      Your pseudo-marxist solution for the Church would only end in anarchy. The Catholic Church would disintegrate into fractionated pieces like Protestanism.

      George Orwell started out life as a socialist but realised after a while that his socialist colleagues did not really love the poor but only hated and were envious of the rich. Orwell also realised by 1955 that any kind of intelluctual support for the USSR was unethical based on the deaths of tens of millions of Russians and citizens from other Soviet republics in the name of a socialist utopia. I wonder are you really just jealous of Catholic bishops?

      The Catholic Church needs, and is currently undergoing, a massive purification. Of that there is no doubt and which purification I am praying intensely for. Also, many bishops and cardinals are dumb dogs who are allowing the wolves to tear the sheep apart. However, this does not mean that you get rid of the Church willed by Jesus just because of cowardly and unworthy bishops, cardinals and, indeed, Pope's.

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    4. @15:35 - excellent comment. Thank you.

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    5. You're all at sea ecclesiologically, aren't you 15:35?

      On the one hand, you defend 'the Church willed by Jesus'; on the other, you defend a hierarchical model of church.

      The two are not compatible, something history has repeatedly shown (not least, and cataclysmically, through the Protestant Reformation).

      And you actually point a finger at a non-hierarchical ideology as the very reason for the plethora of Protestant communities that now exist.

      God save us from historical dilettantes, like you. There would not have been religious reformation in 16th century Euope had it not been for the tyranical arrogance, in particular, of Pope Leo X. An arrogance that was born and nurtured in hierarchical Roman Catholicism.

      Hierarchy cannot exist without subservience. Pope Pius X expressed it in his encyclical,'Vehementer Nos', as a duty of the 'faithful to allow themselves to be led'. By whom? By a hierarchical clergy, of course. This is the model of church that has fostered, facilitated, and guranteed so much evil, so much abuse, both personal and sexual. If ever there were a seedbed for moral corruption, it is this sociological model of community. The fact that both the Nazi's and the mafia worked it should tell you something about its capacity to wreak human corruption and vice.

      The church ('assembly') willed by Jesus was one in which his disciples would be servants of one another, not hierarchs wielding an ugly sceptre of power over others.

      But the rot quickly set in after Jesus' death, with his followers (in particular, Paul-the self-styled-apostle) insisting on obedience to THEIR vision of church, while firing off missive after missive to fledging Christian communities around the Mediterranean to ensure that they kept up to a highly personal mark, which was largely, and idiosyncratically, Paul's own.

      Christian hierarchs and control of others very quickly became a hallmark of the Jesus communities, a feature that became institutionalised after Constsntine made Christianity, for his own secular ambition, the state religion of the Roman Empire. Like any child growing up, the Church came to show, more and more, that it was indeed a chip off the old Roman block: a physically violent, sadistic and relentless tyrant.

      You are calling for a return to past inglory. The evidence is in, and the concludion obvious: hierarchical models may suit exclusively human organisations that can function only by curtailing the freedom of those outside the ambit of personal control. This type of human collective may suit (indeed be essential for such organisations as the military), but not for a community whose founder made mutual love its quintessence, and distingquishing mark. One that once elicited from Tertullian (and attributed by him to non-Christians): 'See how these Christians love one another.'

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    6. MC,You have not given an alternative solution to human organisation outside of hierarchies, which have existed since time immemorial. Even the Protestant communities operate via hierarchies; the problem with them though is that they all teach different things even though, apparently, they base themselves on the same book, the Bible, and are all lead, ostensibly, by the same Holy Spirit.

      You also have the audacity to say that the New Testament and the great Apostle Paul were in error in instituting a hierarchical church. So Paul and the New Testament epistles were not inspired by the Holy Spirit? So Jesus was lying when he said that the Holy Spirit would lead the apostles into all the truth after Jesus' death? (John 16:13).

      Your post is so full of contradictions and ignorance of Scripture as to be utterly laughable.

      I was wondering when Pat would unleash his alter ego, which he normally does when he wants to give the Church a good bashing.;)

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    7. Magna Carta: you cannot claim to be a Christian if you do not accept the inerrancy of the NT epistles. If you only accept the Gospels, under what authority are you reducing the inerrancy of Scripture to the Gospels alone?

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    8. 18:56, re-read my previous comment, because either you read it inattentively, or you're as thick as the proverbial two short ones. 😆

      The model for church envisaged by Jesus is that of servitude, not the kind necessary for human hierarchy (whose twin pillars are dominance and subservience), but which is done from love, in love, and for love. It is all there, more or less, in the seventh and last paragraphs of my post at 17:50.

      At the Last Supper, Jesus got down on his knees and washed his disciples' feet, the mark not of a servant, but of a slave in the ancient world. Was he being a touch theatrical here? No. He knew that people are best taught through example (as did Francis of Assisi), especially example heavy with didactic symbolism. And the example he was setting was one to which the institutional Roman Catholic Church, since at least the fourth century, has paid only lip service, too enamoured of the world, and worldly power, to go any further than ritual on Holy Thursday night. It's example has been in complete contrast to that of the Nazarene. And if you doubt my word on this, then don't doubt the very clear, collective, and resonant voice of evidence for abuses in the Church, not just in our time, but straddling the centuries.

      Hierarchy does not work, because it exploits human weakness: vanity and vainglory. And its supreme fruit is dissatisfaction and division, the kind we currently are feeling in the Church. This is the diametric opposite of the unity that can come only from love (whose only 'hierarchy' is the other).

      Are you really so naive that you believe every word written down in the New Testament, including those by Paul, was inspired by the Holy Spirit? If you are, you have a lot of explaining to do, not least the clear belief of Paul and others that the Parousia (Jesus' second coming) would occur in their lifetime. It was why Paul placed such value on celibacy, not in itself, but because he didn't see the point of marraige, given his conviction that Jesus was coming any day to establish his kingdom on earth in a definitive and triumphant way.

      Well, Paul was wrong. So were the others. And, according to your infantile belief in scriptural inspiration, so, too, was the Holy Spirit.

      As for the Holy Spirit's 'leading The Apostles into all truth', this, clearly, is a work in, er, erratic progress (given Pope Francis' recent decision to expunge centuries of traditional Church teaching on capital punishment).

      Jesus will surely guide the Church (the People of God, not just the so-called 'hierarchy'); but the Church, like its Judaistic forerunner, will sometimes, and inevitably, take deviant paths. Prophets will then be raised up by God to challenge it. And, like the prophets of the Old Testament period, these will be hounded, mocked, persecuted and, if possible, killed. By whom? Why, by self-righteous, bone-headed pricks.

      Like you.😆

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    9. MC, comments like this are MC gems :-)

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    10. Well thanks be to God that I live in the year 2018. The year God decided to reveal through his great prophet Magna Carta that everything went to shit the minute Jesus died but that everything will now be ok because in the inimitable Magna Carta God has at last found, after 2,000 years of searching, a worthy conveyor of the secrets of His Spirit.

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    11. Pat Buckley aka Magna Carta, you still have not provided an answer to my question: What is your viable alternative (s) to hierarchies?

      Also, since you do not believe in the inerrancy of the entire New Testament, how do you select the inspired pieces from the uninspired pieces? And under what or whose authority do you do so?

      Now please try to answer my question without resorting to senseless name calling.

      You disingenuously disguise yourself as MC, Pat, when you want to adopt an opposing perspective in a debate and when you want to recklessly abuse people you don't agree with.

      The reason you don't like St Paul, I suspect, is because of his pronouncements on homosexuality.

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    12. Are you suffering from paranoia?

      I am not MC and I do not even know his identity.

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    13. Magna, how could Peter and James have given a final ruling in Acts 15 at the Council of Jerusalem if they were not dominant and the other apostles were not subservient to them? Peter, James and John were part of Jesus' hierarchy over the other apostles and were the only ones brought up Mount Tabor with Him for His Transfiguration and were also the only ones He brought into Gethsemane during His agony. Do you see? Jesus Himself insituted a hierarchy amongst the apostles.

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    14. You and Magna are one Pat. You do your best to disguise that fact. But some of us know better...

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    15. 19:23, I accept the inerrancy of God, but not of Scripture. For Scripture (as Archbishop Desmond Tutu correctly said) is the word of God THROUGH THE WORDS OF HUMAN BEINGS. And human beings err. Their freedom to err is never taken away from them by God. Can never be taken away from them, since they must ever be free to serve him, or not to serve him.

      Human agency has riven error into the Word of God. It is why Jesus called out those Jews who sought to use scripture from the Hebrew Bible to justify stoning to death a woman caught in adultery.

      And the capacity for human error is why Paul, and those others, wrongly believed that the Parousia would happen in their lifetime. This is evident from certain passages in New Testament missives.

      Open your eyes! Yes, there is, indisputably, human error in Scripture. But there is also God's sacred word. Learn to separate the wheat from the chaff. Learn to discen correctly. The more we love, the easier this will become. For love, genuine love, knows its own signature from forgeries.

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    16. Pat Buckley at 20:17 re “MC gems”: someone pass the sick bucket!

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    17. I wonder which alter ego is using the Magna Caca nom de blog this evening? Lol

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    18. 21:01, you are interpreting this chapter from the perspective of 21st century ecclesiology.

      The chapter makes clear that authority for Peter and James to rule on this matter came from the assembly as a whole, not from their persons alone:

      'When they (Paul and Barnabas) came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and the elders, and they declared (to all of these) all that God had done with them.'

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    19. Mad Magna Caca 17:50

      No it's you that's all at sea ecclesiologically aren't you?

      Instead of a comment, as usual we get a pamphlet with all your erroneous opinions. The so called protestant reformation was in fact a rebellion of renegade priests such as Luther,Calvin and Knox. That is why we have a plethora of protestant sects. They were all freethinkers and could not agree with each other. So they interpret scripture to suit their own sect, I would agree with St. Pius X and the epistles of St. Paul than anything you say. It must have taken you ages to compose that lot and then proof-read it, checked it with your dictionary and spell check before posting, get a grip. Love and prayers B. Eviva Maria!

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    20. Magna Carta: You still have not answered my questions. You spout some vague nebulous nonsense about discerning scripture with your definition of love. All boring and banal subjectivistic waffle.

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    21. 00:07, It isn't my fault that you're thick. 😅

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  3. 04.39: Are you responding to my comment at 00.44? If so, I think you have completely misread my thoughts. My version of religion is based on the gospel of Christ, the early Christian Community, the Church and its received teachings/traditions and the wisdom of the theological, philosophical, scriptural and ecumenical disciplines and the mystical prayers of the Saints. I try to be guided by the depth and beauty of all of this and try to capture something of the beauty of God as revealed in Jesus. My task then is to draw people into the mystery of the Body of Christ. That is my focus and I now know after all my efforts based on a learned model that I literally have to reinvent a new vision for ministry, of being Church and of being a Christ-centred community. That to me is not a return to paganism. Of course, as St. Paul rightly says - love is the foundation. Yes, prayer, sacrifice and virtue are part of and an esdential to any genuine renewal in Christ.

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    1. I am talking to the author of this blog in response to his "Pat Says" piece.

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    2. I think you are confusing Church and institution?

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    3. Pat, Why are you jealous of Gorgeous?

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    4. GORGEOUS

      I am not jealous of Gorgeous.

      Why would I be?

      From what I can see and others say he has either gone or been led into a situation where he uses people and other people use him.

      That can only lead to great unhappiness and him especially in the long term.

      Youth fades and good looks fade even more quickly.

      When the fur goat is gone knickers are even more important :-)

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    5. You are jealous of his good looks and popularity.

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    6. I am not jealous of his "good looks".

      I acknowledge that he has good lucks - but he is not everyone's cup of tea. Many people are attracted to different types - "bears", "twinks" etc etc.

      Gorgeous is not my type - especially because I fear there is a darker, bitchier side?

      I am attracted to people I find physically and innerly handsome.

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    7. Anonymous at 09:41

      You say "YOUR VERSION" of religion is based on the gospel of Christ. That's what all heretics say, when they decide to make up their own religion.

      There is only One Church, The Catholic Church against which the gates of hell shall not prevail. I urge all faithful Catholics to stay loyal to Our Holy Mother The Church. Almighty God will deal with all the evil men who have infiltrated it and have not kept Her teachings.
      All we hear about on this blog is the minority of bad priests who do not keep true to their vocation and the vows they made at their ordination. But remember all the good holy priests who we never hear about who silently and for the love of God serve us by offering up The Holy Sacrifice of The Mass, administrating the Sacraments and serving us, they are the silent majority. This freethinker who wants to start his own religion, he sounds very like the Troll Magna Caca and indeed could be wants to lead people to perdition ignore him. Let us all place ourselves under the protection of The Immaculate Mother of God. She has promised us that in the end Her Immaculate Heart shall Triumph! Eviva Maria!

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    8. 12.56 There used to be some very good holy priests but they are rapidly dying. The world today is very shallow and vain. You need a certain amount of depth and silence to appreciate Christianity. Mary Immaculate did nothing to help the abused children and adults She did nothing to help the Tuam babies or the girls in the Magdalen Launderies. Sometimes we have to follow are consciences and do the right thing.

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    9. Anonymous at 18:57

      Your comment that Our Lady did nothing to help abused children and adults etc.is disingenuous you could have said the same about Almighty God or Our Blessed Lord but no, you had to blame Mary Immaculate. It tells us everything about you. Eviva Maria!

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    10. 18.57 What does it say about me? Everyone has a conscience . a divine navigator. What had happened to these priests and nuns that they ignored their consciences? Was the institution so bullying that they had turned their consciences off? Human beings have to take responsibility for their own actions.We can't say that everything will be OK because we are under the protection of Mary Immaculate. I am not blaming Mary, I have a lot of respect for her. Had obedience taken the place of conscience as it did with the Nazis. God gave them a conscience. Why didn't they use it.

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    11. 18.57 Most of the children who were abused knew it was wrong. Their consciences worked well. What had happened to the abusers and even worse the people who covered it up or looked the other way. Even God can't help if we switch off our consciences

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  4. Quite simply Pat you are jealous of gorgeous because he is gorgeous, the truth will set you free even if the truth is Mullaney.

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    1. No he is jealous of his relationship with ranking prelates, Pat wishes he had this so he could rejoin the RC institution.

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  5. 12.29 At least Pat has some integrity which is more than be said of the bishops and Georgeous.

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  6. If I was a bar of chocolate I’d lick myself. I wish I had the money to get a facelift to look like Gorgeous.

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  7. I see the idiots are on here today especially the Byrne stalker. Pat seems to attract these head the balls.

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  8. It goes to show the intellectual depth of the Gaynooth goons who read this blog that they can't pass any kind of comment on a searching and analytical blog based on the current humiliating and scandalous state of the Church.

    People are more interested in a person who should have never been allowed enter seminary never mind be ordained a Deacon.

    It's indicative of the calibre of individuals presenting for the priesthood in modern Ireland.

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    1. I'm afraid I have to agree with you.

      Poor candidates + destructive formation = Gorgeous et al

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    2. It’s not universal. Take the Jesuits for example. They’ve more PhD priests than anyone else. Also the people here saying who and who should not be admitted to seminary are taking through their arse.

      Diocesan priests are not intellectuals. Why would they?

      Did Jesus have a masters in theology?

      Did the apostles have an advanced degree in fishing ropes ?

      Diocesan priests are out dealing with the great unwashed. They don’t need advanced degrees or higher than average intelligence.

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    3. But they do need a lively spiritual life founded on prayer.

      The current culture of cynicism and faithlessness and sexual orgies is explosive.

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    4. @ 15:43, Maynooth is a joke and now more than ever priests need to have sufficient intellectual formation in order to engage the well educated millennials. In this age of scientific rationalism and post- Modernism, people demand both rational and faithful arguments when discussing the question of God.

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    5. 15.43 If I am paying a priest I want him to be a man of deep faith and prayer.I would also like him to be better educated and wiser than me. It is ok for the laity ...who I don't think of as the great unwashed..not to be that well educated. No-one wants to pay for a shoddy product. I have worked with many gay men some of whom were in civil relationships and I had a lot of respect for them. The comments on here are more suited to bitchy little girls. I hope that non of them are seminarians.

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    6. 15:43
      Please stop comparing priests to Jesus Christ (not having a Masters in Theology, or whatever).
      Utterly silly.
      Jesus Christ is God. Priests are creatures of the Creator. Very different!

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  9. 15.05 The blog is very good. I am a contemplative and I went through a strong conversion experience at 30. At 65 after many years of working in the parish, I have left the church altogether. The constant stomach churning scandals and the new Google translate mass have finished me off.

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    1. It's our pleasure to have a contemplative on the blog :-)

      I am impressed with your conversion experience and interested wiglth your walking away.

      Would you share with you your future and current vision?

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    2. 16.42 There is little integrity in the church. We set standards on birth control and celibacy that we cannot live up to. There are only two main commandments. We pretend to be a lot better than we are. At the end of the day we are sinners in need of a saviour. At the moment I have more respect for people like Richard Sipe who stood up to the church. It seems that anyone who tells the truth is severely punished. We are like Mrs Bucket keeping up appearances. Only the truth can set us free. I would like a return to the previous mass. I would like churches to be placed of silence and deep thought. Let's get real. My son is not nuerotypical. I come from a family of high fliers. It was his birth that broke my ego and forced me to comp!early surrender to God. I had to face the truth and get real. It was then that true faith began. I do not cope well with duplicity and the church is riddled with it. I went through the dark night of the spirit when I knew I was like the picture of Dorian Grey. The church has to go through the same dark night.

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  10. 15:05

    Hi Marsden. The Sacred Heart of Jesus order is known to take on basket cases like you. Little to no formation = ordination. Have a look at their website if you want a good laugh. LOL

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    1. I'll give ye something to LOL over:
      Hi Mullaney

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  11. Pat, I believe the focusing on M. Byrne should be censored. Let those who love him, fantasize and dream about him do so. Let then "get off" on their wild, erotic dreams! But seriously, the comments today re: M. Byrne are trivializing a very serious issue as posted on your blog today. What's your vision Pat which you think we should all follow? Quite honestly, while you make some good observations, your way is too caught up in histrionics, voyeurism, fantasy and an agenda driven blog. What ever happened to the promise of a serious weekly Spiritual/Faith/Prayer day for real inspiration? Not juicy enough for some!!

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    1. Thank you.

      I believe that the future should be a retum to the NT model of church - small gatherings, community authority, ministers as servants.

      Men and women as deacons, presbyters and overseer.

      Emphasis on scripture, prayer and service of all the needs of others.

      No empire or empire building.

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    2. So you would have hierarchies then Pat?

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  12. Hi Pat, what does it mean gorgeous eat all?

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  13. Your good buddy and partner in crime MMM McConnell was arrested today for common assault on a 72 year old Priest, resisting arrest and obstructing Police in the line of duty! Hope you can offer good counselling to him now.

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    1. Luke is neither my buddy or partner.

      If what you say is true he deserved to be arrested.

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  14. +Pat I see Clonliffe is open for culture night. You could have went down and had a look around.

    I personally don’t get what they have to offer for culture night but then that’s just me.

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    1. The pink culture will be all that is bring celebrated there tonite.

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    2. Why the pink culture?

      Is it not all offices now?

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    3. Yes +Pat it’s all offices now. It was the base of WMOF. The refectory is now the staff canteen in the ‘66 wing.

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    4. I have not been that room since 1975.

      I have mixed memories of Clonliffe.

      But it was a very important segment of my life for three years.

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    5. +Pat it’s all part of God’s plan. It makes you stronger. I see Eamonn Walsh floating around AB house and the campus a lot lately in his SUV. The sight of him makes me ill.

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    6. Actually it isn’t pink culture being celebrated. Have you looked at the itinerary? They have a Papal theme this evening. A look at the two Popes who came to Ireland. I think it’s a bit silly and fair play to anyone who wants to see it. Given what else is available for Culture Night I think Clonliffe is way down the list. Pat O’D is directing the music tonight.

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  15. A Catholic bishop accused of repeatedly raping a nun has been arrested by police in India.

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  16. Any word who the new PP of Monstraboice is?

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    1. 22.27: Answer- Magna Carta. Looking forward to his tenure....

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  17. MournemanMichael
    Magna: I've enjoyed reading your comments above.Illuminating and enlightened: in contrast to closed minded limitations of others.
    Keep them coming.
    Michael

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    1. Thanks, MMM.

      Enjoy your praise as much as your criticisms. Why? Because I've learned to trust your judgement.

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  18. I hope there's something more interesting over the weekend, Bp Pt. Is it really true Magna Carta and Fr Marsden enjoy the occasional tits-and-a-handy-shandy?

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  19. To anonymous at 00:44. My heart breaks for you and I pray that you will continue to seek God's guidance in your daily work. There is no perfect church as we are all imperfect but the RC church has become rotten at its core. Oh that it would change and the spirit of God would intervene. However like Pat I fear that it is too late. Maybe my faith just isn't strong enough to believe that change will come about

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  20. Hi Pat
    I think you may have been asked this before and haven’t published it, but people in the community that know this family are aware there’s a whole other side regarding this Luke James McConnell and can you confirm who accompanied him to Larne to visit you 8/9 years ago? luke was such a decent lad before people made him into a monster.

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    1. Hi Lukey Lad... Stop trying to be the candy man and feeling sorry for youself.

      You made you're nest now sleep in it!

      Intimidation of other's and hatred towards your Mum and family will never win the day and always come back to hunt you and we believe this is only the beginning!

      There's only one side to this sad and unfortunately situation, isn't that the case James?

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  21. Come on Pat, please do the decent thing here and give the name, that lads life is in tatters as a result of all this.

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  22. Because someone encouraged him along the way Pat and you know the name....as there is people out there can tell a whole different side to this.

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  23. Jamie doesn't need encouragement. We just need to encourage him to move as far from Middletown as possible!

    He's a disgrace to our community!

    Wise up or get out, simple as!

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  24. I’m surprised his landlord allows him to continue his anti-social behaviour within the community ��

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  25. 12:28 That end hour is close at hand with his landlord, but I'm sure you know it's difficult to get a DLA kiddo out!

    Ohh by the way, a wee birdie informed me this morning that one of his many bail conditions was to refrain from Social Media as it was one of the biggest forms that is bringing Lukey Boy to a low spot!

    A Wee Birdie further informed my family that he had been in the running this year for the much coveted 'Brains of Britain' award!

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  26. 12:28 That end hour is close at hand with his landlord, but I'm sure you know it's difficult to get a DLA kiddo out!

    Ohh by the way, a wee birdie informed me this morning that one of his many bail conditions was to refrain from Social Media as it was one of the biggest forms that is bringing Lukey Boy to a low spot!

    A Wee Birdie further informed my family that he had been in the running this year for the much coveted 'Brains of Britain' award!

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