Thursday, 17 May 2018

EXAMPLE - A MAGHERAFELT ISSUE



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Those people who provided me with the information for today's Blog telephoned me early this morning and asked me to remove the Blog as they feared it would have serious repercussions for them and their families.

Of course I have complied.

It's a sign of the fear that exists in Magherafelt :-(

I understand people's fears and vulnerabilities.

But bullying thrives when it's victims are afraid to challenge it.
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ARMAGH PRIEST AND MAGHERAFELT NATIVE - FATHER THOMAS MC HUGH - RECORDING AN INTERVIEW ON WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE A PRIEST





98 comments:

  1. That video - Holy Mary, Mother of God!!!!!!!!

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    1. Is it a crime to laugh now, is it?

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    2. That video should be classed as a crime.

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  2. How embarrassing is that Thomas Mc Hugh video! If this is the type of priests being ordained today then God help the Church. He is carrying on like a excited school girl. Time for the Catholic Church to man up.

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  3. Fr McHugh is certainly having a laugh alright. It’s time he was laughing on the other side of his face.

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    1. That's a bit harsh.

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  4. Mommie Dearest18 May 2018 at 00:12

    Magna darling, don't you like your future father in law's laugh? You'll be hearing that a lot when we're married.
    Meanwhile you will probably be pleased to hear that I have got tired of waiting for the Church to ordain women and I have found an independent bishop (with indisputably valid orders) who has agreed to consecrate me. Only I mustn't say who the bishop is because he insists on absolute secrecy.

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    1. Mommie dearest, for whatever reason you want to marry THAT, I assure you there is only one reason he would not want to marry you. Can you guess?

      HE'S AS QUEER AS A BOTTLE OF CHIPS.😆

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    2. Take's one to know one.

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  5. I was in seminary at the same time as Tomas, albeit just ahead of him. I remember when he began. He had a friend who went onto become an Airhost and in this friends room was a strange set up.

    I saw the inside but briefly and swore to never darken the door again. The Airhost brought a velvet headboard, rugs and about a dozen cushions. No shoes were to be worn in the room. Over time it earned the name 'The Boudoir' because it was overly plush for a man's room. There a small group of 4 or 5 gathered nightly for post night prayer tea, etc. The chitter chatter went into the late night.. and up through the floor boards.

    Nobody will ever know the exact goìmgs on in there except those in there. But the bitching was awful and the gay vibe was strong. Hetreosexual seminarians were not condoned by this circle and made feel most uncomfortable.

    I can only equate my experience from that point onwards in the seminary as akin to being a hetreosexual in a gay pick up bar.

    I will state I have nothing against homosexuals - but it has been my only life experience where social circles and interaction was determined and driven by sexual orientation... in my innocence I had assumed before seminary that celibacy and the attempt at it would have been the sexual non-orientation of choice.

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    1. How come there was chitter-chatter after Night Prayer? Had the deans given up on enforcing Solemn Silence?

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    2. Given that they don't crack down on strange goings-on it's highly optimistic to expect them to take an interest in breaches of solemn silence.

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    3. The place is too big. The Deans have no idea as to what happens in the nooks and crannies of Maynooth. It is essentially unsupervised at that level... and solemn silence was spoken about as a historical arrangement.

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  6. MournemanMichael18 May 2018 at 00:37

    Others will comment as they choose. For me: couldn't make out any commentary other than inane laughter, so simply judging by visual presentation: very childish immature individual with zero self awareness.
    "Par for the course?"
    MMM

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    1. Don't be so serious, Mournful Mike.

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    2. I'll grant you that MMM's comments are not on the jovial side, but at least he gives his name in every comment and doesn't pipe up from behind a wall of anonymity, unlike you 17:37, whoever you are.

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    3. The name "MournemanMichael" is as anonymous as "Anonymous" - it is not his/her name, and does not identify him/her in any way. Given that one can choose one's name before posting, any number of people could be posting under the name "MournemanMichael" - no guarantee that it's even the same person.

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    4. Hey 19:46, “MMM” doesn’t give his name, you buffoon. He’s every bit as anonymous as you and the rest of us.

      Only Sean Page gives his name - and that nice English lad - Tom.

      What? You think MMM’s Ma christened him “Mourneman”??

      You’ll be telling us that he’s a relation of George Michael the dead singer next!

      Some people on this blog haven’t an ounce. Not a titter do they have. Good grief!

      Ps & Btw - “Magna Carta”, that’s a made up name too. Thon’s another anonymous buck eejit ;-)

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  7. he comes across as very camp

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  8. He always screeched around Maynooth like this so it’s not that surprising to watch. Very immature and if he is a native of Magherafelt parish, no wonder why the place is in a mess. Eamon Martin should take him aside and give him a good talking to.

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  9. The child and support worker were treated appallingly.

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  10. The video is obviously some sort of "blooper" clip. It's not meant to be his views on what's like to be a priest. The laughter of the interviewer also points to it being a "blooper" of some sort.

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  11. Let us get this right. Tommy McHugh is targeted today because of
    1. where he happened to grow up
    2. Because his deportment is somewhat camp...

    He has not actually done anything wrong or targeted anybody with bullying.

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    1. Nobody is "targetted".

      As MMM says it is about issues like maturity and self awareness.

      It's about the young priest's coming out of Maynooth.

      And don't forget - Tommy himself placed this video on line!

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    2. Armagh City Parent18 May 2018 at 09:26

      @09.03 I don’t think he is targeted in anyway, I think you miss the point. The point is that the video speaks for itself and laughing like a hyena to a very serious and important question about Priesthood shows a major lack of maturity. How could parents like me or our children take That seriously? Have you never heard that the camera never lies?

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    3. If it is about the priests coming out of Maynooth, then why not show the other ones where he (and other priests) speak about priesthood, discernment, etc. ?

      And I doubf if Thomas placed this online himself - where did you get it from?

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    4. Grow a set of usable balls Pat. Your some example of maturity!
      You've list any credibility you had in society, you'll die an evil, twisted bitter old man!

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    5. @"Armagh City Parent" : a bit of perspective is needed - the clip is an outtake from a series of interviews. All the other clips show a mature response to the questions asked. What wasn't posted here is the clip where Thomas replies to the important question about priesthood that you refer to.

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    6. 09:39

      I think our readers will decide today who is twisted and bitter???

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    7. Pat, I must apologise for I wrote tge comment at 9.03 when my internet connection had mot alliwed me play the video. I just watched it. It is an absolute disgrace that he responded in that way. The answer to such a question should role with sincerity of his tongue. He exposed himself massively there.

      Such a clip should have been destroyed but aside from thst a good priest could answer that at the drop of a hat. If a man asked him on the street and he responded that way he could put the man right off priesthood.

      He makes my skin crawl.

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    8. Dear 9.03

      No harm done.

      This video clip was sent to me by a reader who was shocked at Thomas's flippancy a d giddiness when asked a out being a priest.

      No one is saying that Thomas is guilty of DOING any wrong.

      This real issue is his apparent immaturity at the age of 30.

      And more worryingly this if often the type of young priest being ordained.

      We all love a laugh and a bit of crack - but at the right time and in the right place.

      Not sitting in front of the Blessed Sacrament talking a out priesthood.

      And then to put it up on line!

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    9. Outtake clip? If it was an outtake it doesn't do any favours for those involved. Why was it put in the public domain. What's happening to the church in general. Fr Ted was prophetic

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    10. The laughing in front of the Tabernacle offended me, especially as he acts all pious and recollected in Armagh Cathedral.

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    11. He's not fooling anyone.

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  12. So sad u took the site down due to gates bullies in magherafelt.At least everyone knows the kind of character we are dealing with.l say again gates is not welcome back.Even the sunday world reported on him.We will not tolerate his bullying anymore adios gates

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  13. Here we go....... the excuses already. Blooper or no blooper that laugh was something else, we expect more decorum and maturity from our young clergy. Good to know that it means uncontrollable laughter when asked what it means to be a priest - tells us all what we need to know. That Priest is an embarrassment and needs to grow up.

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    1. Did you watch the other videos where he talks very sincerely about being a priest, about seminary, etc.? No. Because they don't fit the agenda of this blog.

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    2. I watched his YouTube video of him and Rory Coyle interviewing Sean Brady. At the end Thomas again fell around laughing in front of Brady, has he any cop on or is life one big laugh? Does he need to grow up? 09.32 have a friendly word in his ear as someone needs to tell him.

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    3. Not the interview with the Cardinal. The other clips in this series?

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    4. I saw enough of him with the Cardinal thanks and now this! Have seen enough now, you couldn't take that fella seriously - come on!!

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    5. Decorum isn’t a gospel virtue - joy is. I imagine most of the comments that sound as if they come from po-faced northerners are from those who equate lightheartedness with vice and lugubrious seriousness as virtue.
      Ever heard of Evangelii gaudium?
      Or Amoris laetitia?

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  14. That video is wonderful!! Isn't it great to see a young priest so full of joy. Ah if only more of our clergy were like Fr. McHugh. I don't know what you were attempting to do by sharing this video today, but it has a put a huge smile on my face! The rest of the commenters are VERY serious if they find fault with happiness!

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    1. There's a difference between joy and hysteria.

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    2. What? Girly giggliness equates with happiness.

      That man made me feel quite nauseous.

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    3. Well stop looking in the mirror.

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  15. Video is astounding and not in a good way. It is a summary comment also.

    He probably meant to say ‘being a priest is the ”bestest” thing ever’ in an out of breath voice; but his giggly bags bursted and he thought the result worth posting online for our edification, to show what an absolute SCREAM he is (NOT!)

    To say that guy needs to grow up is the understatement of the year.

    God help Armagh and the Church!!!

    When is the next WYD?

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  16. @09.39 I’m glad you found him laughing like a girl and joking about being a Priest funny. There is some things in life that you don’t joke about and there is a time and a place. How naive of him to think this could be acceptable online material. As many others have pointed out it shows a great lack of maturity.

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  17. He’d put widow Twankey to shame lol or maybe Julian Clary and Fanny the Wonder Dog.

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  18. Pat, why are you concentrating on this. The Irish people are running towards the precipice of officially killing babies in the womb. The video today is a silly one. Bit like Nero fiddling when Rome burned.

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  19. 10.03 The Referendum means so much to you that you are devoting your time replying to the blog rather than to your campaign. Pot and kettle spring to mind, total hypocrisy

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    1. 10.29 A typically ignorant comment. I'm learning that this blog is now almost irrelevant. It is time that there was another blog dealing with the real issues.

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  20. The guy in the video is a big pal of John Gates

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    1. Not unusual as they're from the same parish?

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    2. Gates doesn't come from Magherafelt as in not being born there. Big difference.

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    3. In Ireland it's almost unheard for a priest to be appointed to his home town.

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  21. The “laughing priest” in Fr Ted camped up!

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  22. This video is as gay as Christmas. Even more gay than Paul O’Grady’s tights.

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    1. Priest reminds me of that annoying Mr Wu on the ‘Benidorm’ series - the one with the most inane laugh.

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  23. 10.03...then you should educate males to stop fiddling especially with our women.
    Women will decide what their bodies need after the referendum...and about time too.

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  24. “Dorothy lose the dress and the laugh but keep the shoes”.

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  25. Thank goodness I managed to read today's blog before it was pulled. The "corridor" bit sounds a bit grim I must say.

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  26. I was a visitor at Armagh cathedral last Sunday for First Holy Communion, I couldn’t understand a word this Priest in the video was saying. Someone should have sent him for elocution lessons, ghastly accent.

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    1. Our accents are accidents of our birth.

      No matter what the native accent clear speaking is vital for priests.

      In my Clonliffe days we had a very able elocution teacher called Mrs Cranny O'Donnell.

      To this day I can fill a church or all without a microphone, if I have to.

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    2. Gold star, Pat!

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    3. 12:19 So was I and what a delightful way it was put over for the school children.
      What a load of bullshit your writing!

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    4. No it was the bullshit I was listening to in the Cathedral. Pity a sentence couldn't even be strung along.

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    5. 16:07 What a bright cookie you are. Sounds like a little mammie's baby! You'd need a bitta education on being strung along you tosser!

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  27. Who recorded this video?

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  28. does todays blog involve maynooth concers?

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    1. What is concers? You've been spelling it like that for the last week. No it's not about Maynooth today so jog on.

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    2. Sorry about that, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

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    3. You are a disgrace to the ethos of this blog.

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    4. The correct form is 'conkers...

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    5. The day is not over. Maynooth concers could still emerge on the blog at some point, depending on the behaviour of the lads.

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  29. Every Chilean bishop has offered to resign.

    http://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2018/05/18/every-chilean-bishop-in-rome-resigns/

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  30. It's such a pity that the Magherafelt blog has been removed. Many felt a sense of relief that the issues surrounding a particular institution are finally coming to light. As a parent I would like to highlight that the bullying mentioned has percolated right down through staff to the point where a few staff members behaviour in the is nothing short of disgraceful. From throwing young boys out of the room and then re-opening the door and firing his schoolbag after him to showing the pupils video after video of 'ghosts' in places like Armagh jail is not in keeping with any sort of pastoral care that any decent person would employ. Other staff openly champion/groom for success, one particular pupil over the rest to the point where other pupils feel dejected and isolated and angry. All in all, an institution which needs 'root and branch' change now. There is no doubt that this is another situation like the chaos that ensued in La Salle, Belfast - a good school absolutely ruined by another bully. At least the parents there stood up for themselves and their children....

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    1. The situation you describe is tragic for parents and children.

      So much for the Christian aspect of RC education!

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    2. This doesn't make sense to me at all. Surely if pupils are being mistreated so badly the parents can approach CCMS and Education board to act. If the trustees don't act you can make those bodies take action

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  31. This is what happens in schools where priests take it upon themselves to act as H R without the slightest idea about the profession.
    All schools need a H R consultant .
    Another Keady and de la Sal.
    More to come

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    1. You are perfectly right.

      Schools need a human resources person.

      Yes indeed. More to come.

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  32. It is a university degree course.
    You don’t learn this at a seminary...we are talking about working with people knowing how to listen and guide.
    Hospitals are just wakening up to knowing that there are all types of personalities....they learning the hard way too
    Pat I’m sure you know people with this qualification...solicitors are all well and good..but !!!!!!!!..get one on board.
    Far too much bullying in the workplace.
    Workers need to know their limitations as well as their rites.

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    1. Now it will be down to mediation14.49...that will be the difficult journey.

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  33. Aren’t videos great for having a handy afternoon as a teacher in a classroom.
    You could even take a little snooze during it.

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  34. All of these schools have another common denominator - CCMS. Another 'cloak and dagger' institution whose only interest is in themselves and the cronies they employ. In these austere times in Education, I say get rid of CCMS immediately and re-direct the funds to the schools which are so desperately in need of a cash injection. We are more than capable of keeping Catholic education alive ourselves, without these idiots dictating terms. Just another throw-back to the bad old days.

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    1. Another unnecessary and costly layer and an institution that places and takes failing and failed principals that appear to be unsackable. An organisation where nepotism and cronyism is rife. It would be interesting to find out what their running costs are.

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  35. So Donal mcKeown is head of CCMS.does he recommend videos of ghosts??

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    1. He recommends punctuation.

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    2. CCMS, the Council for Catholic Mafia and Sycophants.

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  36. Tommy boy sounds like a hysterical hyena

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  37. Leave poor Fr Thomas alone Pat, poor guy hasn't done anything but laugh from nerves whilst a video being put together.

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  38. These "Queering Space" activists recount their glee at having their conference in the heart of Maynooth seminary. To think that the college allows this stuff.

    http://www.fearghus.net/after-the-bodies-politic-symposium-the-casement-project/

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    1. Irish Bishops' Conference! Why was this allowed in Renehan Hall?

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  39. +Pat I’m going to send me Ma around to batter you x she’ll dig the arms off you x

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  40. This is being blown this out of all proportion. The video was an outtake from a series he did for a vocations website. It's one of 6 from what I recall. The other 5 had Thomas answering maturely and seriously about priesthood. The clip that was shared here was originally labelled as an outtake and originally posted as such. It was not meant to be taken seriously and was clearly stated as such. You've taken one (humourous) clip and posted that here as Thomas' considered response to a question on priesthood. It's clearly not intended to be that.

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  41. PENTECOST 2018 - A FEW THOUGHTS OF A PRIEST -
    " THE DOMESTIC CHURCH ."

    I received news of another Ordination , and it troubled me as a Priest of
    17 years .Not because we do not need new Deacons and new Priests
    because we do -The humanity needs them . The Church needs them .
    The Sacraments are precious .

    But what are we ordaining for ? In some cases to make some look important
    as they have an ever increasing group of Clergy around them ? Yet other
    parts of the Church or missions receive no help , or the blessings they need ?

    To hold on to structures that are past , or dying , or will no longer be here in
    50 years time certainly in Europe ? All the Ordinations in the world will not
    lead to the renewal of the church . Fundamental questions in most places
    remained unanswered , or off the agenda , because some people do not want to
    face them . "Why are the chairs largely empty on a Sunday despite all the Ordinations ?""

    What do people outside the church say about us ?" Because unless we face these

    questions there will be no renewal .



    What will lead to the renewal of the Church is when we look at those outside our walls, and look for

    new ways to reach them . The ordained alone will not reach them . Their role must be to give light

    to the very people that often can . The people of God in their homes . The church will be rebuilt ,

    will be renewed when our focus , our mission is to give light to them so that they will give light to

    those in the world .



    The renewal of the Church will come when we truly live and develop the domestic church - Every home of our people

    is a domestic church . It is there even if there are just a few people we must go to , pray in , and teach them how to live

    the spiritual life in their homes . The domestic church teaches us that here will be the true evangelists , the ones able to reach out , and bring light to

    the darkness sometimes in the world around us .

    Nazareth was the pattern of the Domestic Church . Here God through His
    Son , who became the Savior of the world , God chose to live , pray ,
    and work , in a humble , simple home , and carpenters workshop . In an
    unimportant town that was asked if any good can come from that place ?

    Nazareth the place where God chose to meet the humanity , pressures ,
    and love and commitments of ordinary life and situations .It is here
    we must once again build the Church and meet with people . In
    this we will fulfill the great commission to go out in to the whole world .

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