Pope Francis:
The Great Accuser is trying to uncover sins to cause scandal
The Great Accuser is trying to uncover sins to cause scandal
The Great Accuser is trying to uncover bishops’ sins in order to scandalise the people, Pope Francis has said.
In a homily at Casa Santa Marta on Tuesday morning, the Pope told bishops that they seem to be under attack from the devil.
The best way for bishops to fight this, he added, is by being men of prayer who remain close to the people and who have the humility to remember they were chosen by God, Vatican News reports.
The Pope said that prayer is “a bishop’s consolation in difficult times,” because “Jesus is praying for me and for all bishops.”
Referring to the devil, Pope Francis said: “In these times, it seems like the Great Accuser has been unchained and is attacking bishops.”
“True, we are all sinners, we bishops,” he added. “He tries to uncover the sins, so they are visible in order to scandalize the people.
“The Great Accuser, as he himself says to God in the first chapter of the Book of Job, ‘roams the earth looking for someone to accuse’.
“A bishop’s strength against the Great Accuser is prayer, that of Jesus and his own, and the humility of being chosen and remaining close to the people of God, without seeking an aristocratic life that removes this unction.
“Let us pray, today, for our bishops: for me, for those who are here, and for all the bishops throughout the world.”
Bishops must remain humble, he added, because they were chosen by God.
“The bishop who loves Jesus is not trying to climb a ladder, advancing his vocation as if it were a mere task or seeking a better placement or promotion. No. A bishop feels chosen, and has the certainty of being chosen.
“This drives him to speak with the Lord: ‘You chose me, of little importance, a sinner.’ He is humble, because he feels chosen and feels Jesus’ gaze upon his whole being. This gives him strength.”
A good bishop also does not “try to find refuge with the powerful of elite,” Pope Francis said.
“The ‘elites’ criticise bishops, while the people has an attitude of love towards the bishop.
“This is almost a special unction that confirms the bishop in his vocation.
1700 GERMAN CLERICS ABUSED 4000 MALE MINORS
A study commissioned by the German bishops’ conference reports the sexual abuse of thousands of children in that country over a period of 70 years. The report was scheduled to be released later this month, but was leaked Wednesday to German media.
The report was commissioned by the German bishops’ conference and scheduled to be presented on Sept. 25 at the autumn plenary session of the German bishops, as CNA Deutsch reported.
Its methodology is substantially different from that of the Pennsylvania Grand Jury report.
The study documents sexual offenses against “3677 predominantly male minors” between 1946 and 2014, Der Spiegel reported
“1670 clerics are accused of the deeds,” the German magazine reported, saying researchers had “examined and evaluated more than 38,000 personnel and other files from 27 German dioceses.”
Der Spiegel reported that in many cases evidence was found by researchers to have have been “destroyed or manipulated.”
“We are aware of the extent of sexual abuse that is proven by the results of the study. It is oppressive and shameful for us,” Bishop Stephan Ackermann of Trier said in a statement Wednesday. The bishop is Commissioner for Questions of Sexual Abuse in the Church and for Questions of the Protection of Children and Minors of the German bishops’ conference.
“Four years ago we commissioned the study and we bishops in particular are facing up to the results. The first step will be the Assembly in Fulda.”
Ackermann also criticized the leak of the study documenting the abuse of minors by priests and religious in Germany in the years 1946 to 2014.
In a statement from the German bishops’ conference, Ackermann said: “I regret that the study, which has remained confidential so far, and is the result of four years of research on the subject of ‘Sexual abuse of minors by Catholic priests, deacons and male religious in the area of the German Bishops’ Conference’ was published today.”
“Especially with regard to those affected by sexual abuse, the irresponsible advance publication of the study is a severe blow,” said Ackermann.
“This is all the more exasperating since not even the members of the German Bishops’ Conference so far know the entire study,” he added.
According to the German bishops’ conference, the aim of the study, in which all 27 dioceses of Germany took part, was “to obtain more clarity and transparency about this dark side in our church, not only for the sake of those affected, but also in order to be able to see the misdemeanours for ourselves and do everything possible to ensure that they do not repeat themselves.”
“We are concerned about a responsible and professional approach to the problem. I am convinced that the study is a comprehensive and careful survey that offers figures and analyses from which we will continue to learn. This also applies to the findings that provide a deeper insight into the actions of perpetrators and the behaviour of church leaders over the past decades. Once again, I stress that the study is a measure that we owe not only to the Church, but first and foremost to those affected,” Ackermann said.
PAT SAYS:
Francis is behaving like a child in a playground who threw a stone and broke a window.
When he headmaster comes along the child points at another boy and says: "He did it".
Many thousands of children around the world by clergy and religious.
Thousands of bishops have covered up all that abuse.
Francis himself covered up abuse in Argentina AND played a role in the disappearance of two fellow Jesuits.
And his answer to all of this he says:
"THE DEVIL DID IT".
It was not the Devil that abused seminarians and young priest's. It was a rotten guy called Theodore Cardinal Mc Carrick.
It was not the Devil that abused 4000 boys in Germany. It was the 1760 clerics who did it.
It was not the Devil who buried the 600 babies in the septic tank in Tuam. It was the rotten "brides of Christ".
It was not the Devil who sexually quizzed two little boys in a room in Drogheda, victims of Brendan Smyth. It was an excuse for a man called Sean Brady.
Now Frank wants us all to believe that the abusing priests and the covering up bishops were all the victims of the guy with a tail and a fork?
And as such they are all innocent.
In this matter Francis has shown his true colours. Protect the institution. Protect the hierarchy. Protect the clergy.
Blame the Devil!
Even the Devil in Hell must be disgusted at the level of absolute corruption in the RC junta.
As Patrick Kavanagh wrote:
Francis is behaving like a child in a playground who threw a stone and broke a window.
When he headmaster comes along the child points at another boy and says: "He did it".
Many thousands of children around the world by clergy and religious.
Thousands of bishops have covered up all that abuse.
Francis himself covered up abuse in Argentina AND played a role in the disappearance of two fellow Jesuits.
And his answer to all of this he says:
"THE DEVIL DID IT".
It was not the Devil that abused seminarians and young priest's. It was a rotten guy called Theodore Cardinal Mc Carrick.
It was not the Devil that abused 4000 boys in Germany. It was the 1760 clerics who did it.
It was not the Devil who buried the 600 babies in the septic tank in Tuam. It was the rotten "brides of Christ".
It was not the Devil who sexually quizzed two little boys in a room in Drogheda, victims of Brendan Smyth. It was an excuse for a man called Sean Brady.
Now Frank wants us all to believe that the abusing priests and the covering up bishops were all the victims of the guy with a tail and a fork?
And as such they are all innocent.
In this matter Francis has shown his true colours. Protect the institution. Protect the hierarchy. Protect the clergy.
Blame the Devil!
Even the Devil in Hell must be disgusted at the level of absolute corruption in the RC junta.
As Patrick Kavanagh wrote:
A View of God and the Devil
I met God the Father in the street
And the adjectives by which I would describe him are these:
Amusing
Experimental,
Irresponsible -
About frivolous things
He was not a man who would be appointed to a Board
Nor impress a bishop
Or gathering of art-lovers.
He was not splendid, fearsome or terrible
And yet not insignificant.
This was my God who made the grass
And the sun
And stones in streams in April;
This was the God I met
In an old quarry full of dandelions.
This was the God I met in Dublin
As I wandered the unconscious streets.
This was the God that brooded over the harrowed field -
Rooney's - beside the main Carrick road
The day my first verses were printed -
I knew Him and was never afraid
Of death or damnation
And I knew that the fear of God was the beginning of folly.
The Devil
I met the Devil too,
And the adjectives by which I would describe him are these:
Solemn,
Boring,
Conservative.
He was a man the world would appoint to a Board,
He would be on the list of invitees for a bishop's garden party,
He looked like an artist.
He was the fellow who wrote in newspapers about music,
Got into a rage when someone laughed;
He was serious about unserious things;
You had to be careful about his inferiority-complex
For he was conscious of being uncreative.
Worth reading The Tablet’s report on this so called study. The findings are worthless because the researchers from three universities were not given access to Diocesan archives, but were only allowed to see the documents the bishops wanted them to see.And as Der Spiegel states even these documents had been destroyed or tampered with, Far from new found transparency, this suggests cover up. The Church just cannot let go of controlling and rigging the evidence. No way can the Bishops police themselves. Only an outside investigation will do, such as the recent independent inquiry that produced a damming indictment of Downside and Ampleforth after years of deliberate obfuscation, As for Francis, his credibility is shot to bits.
ReplyDeleteBishop Pat, I posted you a letter some months ago about father Edward Kenneally as i am his nephew and lost contact with him a number of years ago, did you receive my letter and were you able to pass on my personal letter to him ? Kindest Regards, Campbell Caraher
ReplyDeleteI did reply.
DeleteI do not know his whereabouts for the last 12 years.
Sorry.
Can anyone advise me how to join the church of Satan? He is a force for good and child safety and I want to find out more.
ReplyDeleteFrankenpope really is out of his mind.
Pat can tell you how to join. He's his vicar on earth.
DeleteIs mystical theology thought in Seminaries?
DeleteIf not why not?
Rather than apostacy better to abandon the hierarchy, be faithful to our baptism as priest prophet and king. How many would join Bill if he celebrated mass? How many are ready to call time on the great deceivers? Get out of her! It would be immoral to obey a corrupt regime!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous at 07:29
DeleteNot many,he has no right to celebrate The Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Not only is he an apostate but has rejected his baptism . So anything he did would not be licit or valid.
What happens to his ontological status as a priest? Is that reverse-engineered somehow? Or is he in the, truly, incredible situation of being an apostate who is also an Alteri Christus?
DeletePat, you really are a one trick pony. Day after day, week after week, year in year out the same old bile spews from your disordered mind. The council in Clonliffe showed great judgment in 1974 when they showed you the door. It's a pity others were less astute in their judgments or we would have been spared your rants. Dublin lost out on a great street sweeper. Pity! C'est la vie. The grave will take care of you.
ReplyDeleteGet your date right, 1973.
DeleteThe president if Clonliffe, Bishop Joe Carroll, gave me a fine reference that got me into Waterford 10 weeks later :-)
PS: I'll be remembered when you and your ilk are forgotten.
DeleteWhy do you denigrate street sweepers?
Aren't you a very nasty person
DeleteThe evil come from the hole called Larne.
ReplyDeleteSo I'm responsible for Smyth, Fortune, Paine, Casey, Mc Carrick, Pell.........
DeleteI never knew I had such power.
Quite so, Pat. Your unforgivable crime in the eyes of many bishops, priests and their besotted cheerleaders among the laity is to expose the filthy rotten system. In Germany Bishop Ackermann is well pissed because the German media got in a few days before the German bishops had got their spin together on a report which is discredited from its conception given the absence of freedom and objectivity. NB how Ackerman claims the press has “damaged the victims”!
DeleteWhat is overwhelmingly clear is that yet again the great majority of assaults by clergy were on young males. Vatican II happened in the middle of the post war period covered, so it appears irrelevant whether the abuser was a lace queen or a guitar groupie. What hits one in the face again and again is the Church’s inability to deal with the human condition. Homosexuality is a fact of life, and the developed world has no problem with that. Who is dysfunctional: the current Irish Taoiseach or a typical Irish bishop? For some reason the Church has a massive problem with homosexuality and it has to get real with that. Will it, do you think? I’d say, no chance, so expect more and more of the same.
It is not as if among the clergy this is not discussed or rather giggled about in the same tone as the latest hot boy on Hollyoaks - well spotted, that earlier posting! At Allen Hall under the mismanagement of Mgr John Coughlan ( remember him? ) the queens managed to identify a couple of guys presumed straight among them. Needless to say both left, so raising the queer % from ca. 95 to 100 %.
+Pat don't listen to the vile, evil rubbish that comes from those claiming to be Christians like annon@9.38 and subsequent messages. They are attacking you personally as they cannot string a coherent argument to justify their cause. You do right by rising above it.
DeleteThe priest director of the Sistine Chapel Choir, along with the manager, is being investigated for “embezzlement, fraud and Money laundering”. As recently as the 19th century that disgusting institution was trafficking in young boys to castrate them. And today the Church has a big problem with transgender bathrooms, which are apparently against the age old natural order! Ugh!
ReplyDeleteFor months now Cardinal Sean Brady keeps being mentioned and looks like it is all falling on deaf ears and I am shocked at the Papal Nuncio if this is the sad facts that are written on here about Sean Brady.
ReplyDeleteSo take it to the next stage if you are all sure of the correct facts.
Cardinal Pietro Parolin
Palazzo Apostolico Vaticano
00120
Vatican State
Rome
email vatio26@relstat-segstat.va
And they will investigate if it is Facts but surely if it was true Sean Brady should resign.
Anonymous at 10:46
DeleteIf you think writing to Parolin would make any difference, you are sadly mistaken, he is as bad as any of the dastardly crew now ruining the Holy See.
10:46, why do you continue to place such trust in Roman Catholic hierarchs in light of what is now known about them? (And there is more...so much more... to come.)
DeleteWhat is wrong with you? Why such confidence? Such loyalty? You'd make an interesting case-study...in raw, unadulterated mindlessness.
Pope Francis himself is now attempting to garner global sympathy for his beleagured band of mitred reprobates by suggesting, openly for once, that these poor loves are under satanic attack. What monumental self-pity!
Truth is Satan didn't have to attack this morally disordered band, because it willingly, eagerly, bent over for him; and there they remain, in chosen intercourse with Hell.
If they want to restore credibility in themselves, then they need to leave their palaces, their stockbroker incomes and lifestyles, their worldy titles and status, and return to the stable: to the streets, living and working among the poor, the marginalised, the lonely, the desperate, the despairing, the suicidal.
Because it is here they will find the Nazarene.
But then, they really aren't looking for him, are they?
What about writing to Cardinal Sarah instead?
Delete19:09, er, why write to him?
DeleteDon't get all touchy in responses Pat! You'll be ridiculed for the rest of your life - sadly. Much of the ridicule is justifiable. It's a pity you encourage a response of vile, nasty, personalised, name calling responses. I can understandcwhy, but that kind if response does a disservice to truth and justice. The facts as you present them speak for themselves and they are horrific, shameful and disturbing. I am ashamed of such facts, ashamed of the horrendous abuse by clerics and the criminal cover up. I have given almost 40 years to ministry and each day now I stand before God asking many questions about the constant revelations and feel almost beyond paralysis in my response. What can I do? How can I effect change and healing for survivors? How can I bring some hope to the parishioners I serve? Many of us (priests) are very ashamed and do not believe in our relevance in the present expression of priesthood. While we believe we have done much good in our parishes through various renewal programmes, missions, celebrations and involve as many lay people as possible, we now are witnessing the unravelling of much of what we have achieved. Yes, I take my share of responsibility for not shouting much, much louder (I have done much of it) in the face of glaring abuse, corruption and cover up. I speak frequently against institutional Church abuse and sinful wrongdoing. I try to ensure I live with the truth of the gospel. I believe we are at a very critical moment in our Church history. We need the "volcanic" power of the Holy Spirit to lead Church leadership and personnel in a cleansing purification and penance. I genuinely feel lost at times and wonder how I can serve more meaningfully and with credibility in the face of the unfolding revelations. I loved the ideal to which true priesthood in Christ aspires but now I feel that anything (Good and worthwhile) I have done in the past and anything good I may seek to do is now cast over with dark shadows, questions and suspicions. I pray each day for all victims, survivors and their families. Wish I could do much, much more.
ReplyDeleteThank you for that heartfelt response.
DeleteYou are, quite obviously, a good man and priest.
But things are so serious now priests need to rise up and speak to power.
This needs to be done very publicly and in numbers to protect you.
It will bring great pain and pressure on you.
But I believe that this is the cross Jesus the Priest is calling priests to take up.
It will be very hard to do.
But you and I have a short numbers of years left.
Let us go to God saying that we rose up against all the evil corruption.
God bless you.
Good response, Pat, to an honest heartfelt contribution from another serving priest. He is staying within the system hoping to do some good. He and all priests of good will might start by simply sending out positive messages of inclusivity, truthfulness and welcome. I’d suggest for example the mission statement on every newsletter from St Mary’s & St Michael’s parish, Commercial Road in the Archdiocese of Westminster:
Delete“ We seek to be a community witnessing to God’s inclusive love, welcoming and affirming all people of every race, age, gender, sexual orientation, place of national origin and economic status.”
If Vin is serious, he should make that normative throughout his highly dysfunctional diocese. Willie Skehan, by the way, lists himself not as Rector or Parish Priest, but “priest in the community”. It’s a wonderful parish community. Go and take a look, Vinny.
10:58....'We need the volcanic power of the Holy Spirit to lead Church leadership in a cleansing purification and penance'... I think you are absolutely right and I think that will happen in due course. I feel for you and hear what you are saying but remember to not let your heart be troubled but trust in God in season and out of season.Maybe the many good Priests need to organize and begin petitioning their Bishops for public penance and reparation from the Church and the People of God and to plead the Lord to pour out His cleansing Holy Spirit and for Holy Fire! That's something practical to do.
Delete10:58 &18:25: Why not set up a website with concerned colleagues and use it as a forum for concerned Priests and concerned Religious to petition Bishops locally, nationally and internationally. Don’t be afraid to try something new. Think outside the box! God bless.
DeleteThis business of Francis is becoming very serious. It is making mainstream news throughout the world, not only his lack of response to the claim by Vigano that he allowed McCarrick to continue swanning around the world and did not impose any restrictions on him whilst knowing the detail of his offences, but also his rather pathetic and disingenuous, as well as dangerous, response that it is all the work of the devil, implying that there is some pity to be had for the poor unfortunate abusers who were being used by the devil to do his dirty work ! This just does not cut the mustard, and plays back to the old culture of abuse not being the fault of the abuser, but of some other power, or even the fault of the abused !
ReplyDeleteIt verges on the edge of saying that he just does not get it, does not understand the pathology of abuse and abusers, and has not realised the existential seriousness of this scandal for the Church, never mind what it says to the abused about the Church not understanding the depth of their plight and pain.
Pope Francis needs to come up with some serious and firm leadership at a time like this, rather than trying to find excuses and reasons for the abuse and the abusers. This has the capacity, as I say, to be an existential threat for the Roman Catholic Church, which like so many institutions in the past (even those claiming to be divinely founded and inspired) have gone in to melt down. It could happen ! Wise up ! Get a grip ! Otherwise, other people and groups will. Then you can blame the Devil !
How is he to get a grip ? Surely, dear readers, you have some ideas ?
Well said, and pertinent question. All the signs are that Pope and bishops are using “the smoke of Satan” to cover up their own delusions and mismanagement. The Bishop of Pittsburgh, dammed in the Pennsylvania report, calls for days of reparation and the prayer to St Michael, as if somehow we are all sinners in one form or another, so guilt and responsibility is collective. Hardly surprising within a toxic moral theology which determines rape and murder are mortal sins just as are using a condom or having a wank.
DeleteDear Bishop Pat, Parsons Green parish, London is much troubled. Major Rows overheard between the chubby lover parish priest, Fr Michael Daley, and his "friend", MONTITTY, --that scourge on Westminster Diocese, the gift of Beda College rector, Rod Strange.
ReplyDeleteFather Daley will be very cross with you for mentioning him on this blog.
DeleteHe does not like me or the blog.
He has disowned friends who talked to me about him.
PS A retired priest who lived with him was very unkindly treated :-(
DeleteNot very edifying for the parishioners: what do they think about having a chubby chaser for a pastor? Were the tiffs fuelled by alcohol, or did somebody forget to record Hollyoaks?
DeleteThat doesn’t surprise me, Pat. Retired priests often get a bum deal from their brethren, who regard them as a nuisance cluttering up the house. The much loved Norman Brown was disgracefully turfed out of Westminster Cathedral House by the then administrator, a slimy piece of work called Mark Langham, who must have had another of his nervous collapses when his old class mate Mark O’Toole was made a bishop, and he had to make do with the Cambridge Chaplaincy.
DeleteThat figures re your anecdote at 13:37. I can imagine the giggling group swapping funny stories about what they had heard in the confessional - appalling in itself, and people trust these creatures? He could have asked Mgr Howe what cottaging meant. Langham is a nasty piece of work. He took to his bed for a week when he learnt he was being sent to Allen Hall rather than Rome.When he finally made it to the English College, his hobby was drawing portraits of fellow seminarians, but only the good looking ones of course. His pen must be kept well busy at Cambridge. Tom of Finland anyone?
DeleteIt would be interesting to know who else was present at that clerical drinks fest at 13:37. Go on, spill - you know you want to. Then we can see who else is an effing liar.
DeleteGeorge Stack, Tim Dean, George Lyons, Michael Archer are the priests I remember at it. Mark was sub-Administrator at the time and had the room at the very top of the house, which opened onto the terrace. It was subsequently turned into a sitting room.
DeleteI hope Archbishop George Stack rebuked Langham for introducing what he had been told under the seal of the confessional as a topic for mockery. Pretty low even for him.
Delete@14.02 Perhaps not Tom of Finland but more BelAmi for Mark.
DeleteIt would appear that the Vatican is a rogue state and should be treated as such. A freeze on bank accounts and travel would work wonders.
ReplyDeletePat I am sure you reported with all details the supposed abuse that Bill Muvihill revealed to you. Can you name who you spoke to the PSNI and Gardai about?
ReplyDeleteHomosexuality has destroyed the priesthood. The majority of the scandals can be traced to that subculture.
ReplyDeleteI agree the mix is totally toxic, but given that most priests are gay, whether they admit it or not, what is it you want? Do you seriously think that the SSPX or FSSP or ICSK ordain only heterosexual men? Actually you probably pretend you do think that! Old Mother Burke likes men to be men.
DeleteHi Stephen
DeleteAnonymous at 13:06
DeleteWhat a horrible old Queen you are, it's you who like men to be men. You are so toxic, but I suppose that comes from your vile lifestyle.
Dear @13:06, would you by any remote chance be a homosexual yourself? Cardinal Burke has often complained of the lack of real men in the Church, and campaigned for manliness. I quite agree but don’t quite make the connection with the characters who flutter round His Eminence.
DeleteI'm a 'real man'. 😆
DeleteMy socks stick to the wall. And my underwear... Well, perhaps that would be a tad too much info.
But I'm a 'real man', all the same.
Really. 😆😆
12:36 I disagree I think Brendans have destroyed the Priesthood.
ReplyDeleteBishop Pat, would you believe that another chubby friend of Fr Michael Daley, who has had a few cameos on your blog, is the overly early retired Rev. Eamon Murray of Northampton Diocese, and subsequent supply merchant in Northern Ireland. To be avoided at no cost and all costs. He was a Mass-saying feature and drunken guest with Daley at Balls Pond Road, North London.
ReplyDelete5 students will enter Maynooth the lowest number in its 223 year history
DeleteFive lambs to the slaughter!
Delete@13.04 You must have been a resident too if you say this person was not only a guest there but a drunken one too. Who else was resident there I wonder?
DeleteOnly five trainee whores.
DeleteFrancis has a shady past in Argentina. The truth will out. He avoids the country like the plague.
ReplyDelete13:39 Really? A major non sequitur.
DeleteA visit would draw attention to his misdeeds there.
DeleteHere we go again! A priest goes from Thurles to Birmingham to Northampton to Allen Hall to Louvain, gets himself ordained for Northampton and then retires - when still in his thirties or did he hold out to forty? Northampton buys him a house in Northern Ireland, pays him a pension while he makes an extra earner doing supply. Now what’s really going on here? Health problems at such a young age should have been detected before he was ordained, particularly as he appears grossly overweight and a boozer to boot. Sounds very dodgy indeed and a typical priest type.
ReplyDeleteThat priest was healthy as a seminarian and priest he served for 20 years and then suffered a stroke and a heart attack and nearly died. He is genuinely in poor health. I know his family.
Delete@13.51 Thank you for that info Fr. Michael Daley. Cardinal Nichols, who knows Fr. Murray for many years will be impressed by your attempt to discredit him with the obvious lies about him. Maybe we could ask His Eminence for the real version.
DeleteI can attest to the fact that Vinney holds Father Murray in high regard and they are regularly in touch with as h other. I imagine Daley will feature in such communications.
Delete@13.51 Your facts about Fr. Eamon are wrong. He is not a Birmingham priest but Northampton. He never studied in Louvain, he is not money orientated and if you see the car he drives you would realise that. He has supplied very occasionally here but will not take payment for it only petrol. Is he being singled out and punished by the Irish hierarchy for speaking out on radio and tv about abuse and his recent criticisms of bishop Boyce in Dromore? I smell a rat.
DeleteWhat’s Vinny got to do with him? He is a Northampton priest, though how he got there ....
Delete@15.14 For someone asking questions you don't seem to know a lot about it all.
DeleteWhat is there to know? And why the defensiveness? If Pat vouches for him, then that is good enough for me. The thread was started by @13:04. Father Daley has said nothing. He does seem to have moved around a lot, and he was assisting Fr Daley in Westminster. According to the Mid-Ulster Mail of 20/05/2005 reporting on Fr Murray’s appointment as PP of Luton, he had spent four years in a Birmingham parish, and “In 2000, Father Eamon graduated from the Pontifical University of Leuven in Belgium with a Bachelor’s Degree in Theology.” Well, did he or didn’t he ? Louvain is the same place by the way. Sorry it’s confusing.
DeleteUntil Allen Hall students went to Heythrop they gained their degrees through Louvain whilst studying in Allen Hall.
Delete@17.12 Thanks for the info Allen Hall.
DeleteAllen Hall - you dont know half of it.
DeleteTell us more about Allen Hall Bp Pat. Is it really as bad as some say it is
DeleteOh you little devil at 19:39! You are just the kind of person the Holy Father warned us about! So who’s going to start?
Delete@19.52 Do you listen to all the things the Pope warns you about? I think he is rather preoccupied at the moment - saving his neck!
DeleteDo they have to have a university degree before entering?
ReplyDeleteOr are they teenagers?
I understood that theses days, young men are preferred to have university education before making the decision.
Mark Langham had a past that Bishop Longley is aware of in Birmingham when he was Auxilary in Westminster. I believe you did a blog about the subject. Langham was administrator of Westminster Cathedral. He liked one of the senior servers who was 18+ out for a meal.
ReplyDeleteThe official version for his leaving the Cathedral was nervous exhaustion due to overwork. All those long hours in the confessional possibly, wrestling with sins he could not possibly know anything about as a priest. How old then was the senior server, 19 ?
DeleteNo, Bishop Pat, please. FR.Murray is evil. He was problem student in Thurles and at Allen Hall. I was there with the Bastard. Utterly toxic. You cannot support him, please...
ReplyDeleteWhat do you mean evil?
DeleteAsk him how he acquired a Vatican Passport?
Delete@16.30 If he was a problem student in two Semanries he would not have been ordained - that is very clear. What you say doesn't add up.
ReplyDeleteIt seems Fr Tom Montgomery has it in for you Bishop Pat after the stuff he's been saying about you in Westminster. The focus in Westminster is to discredit you.
ReplyDeleteWill he stab me with the plastic cherry stick from his pink gin :-)
DeleteMontitty would be too pissed to attack anyone. He enjoys people watching he claims, particularly in Glasgow city centre.
DeleteWhat's the story with Daley being a chubby chaser? He also had a relationship with a chubby Portsmouth priest.
DeletePoor porky.
DeleteWas that what the row in Parsons’ Green was about?
DeletePat, do you publish anything that people write about others without even checking it? It seems as if you take the option of throwing enough shit in the air in the hope that something might stick to someone - but come on this afternoon's crap has had me wetting myself with laughter with what is supposed to have gone on.
ReplyDeleteTheres an awful lot of shit to throw up in the air :-)
DeleteReally? Which bits are untrue?
DeleteSome Westminster priests are saying you Mr Buckley and Fr Murray are an item.
ReplyDelete:-)
DeleteFather Murray has been condemning me, even in newspapers, for 25 years.
Westminster priests seem always to have got their priorities wrong:
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Just read your initial headline of this post Pat. What a load of bull Pope Francis is spouting. It is not the devil who is accusing bishops and priests. It is us, ordinary people who are aware of bishops/priests doing the devil's work whilst professing Christianity. By all means they should pray and if they are guilty of abuses they should pray for forgiveness and face justice and that should start with them being kicked out of their positions and ALL information being passed to the civil authorities. So now, according to the Pope, WE are doing the devil's work. We aren't the ones carrying out nor covering up abuse. Poor wee priests and bishops! God forgive us all for exposing their evil and vile actions! By their OWN actions they have let themselves, the people and their fellow holy and spiritual colleagues down. When you are in a hole the worst thing you can do is start digging deeper hoping that you will be hidden from the light. And there was me believing that God's light shone everywhere. No hiding place. I used to respect Pope Francis but he is off his rocker in behaving this way. Keep exposing the evil bastards and that's too kind of a word for them. The abusers/cover up merchants in the RC church and anywhere else for that matter are scum.
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The devil is at it again, trying to undermine the confidence of the faithful in their pastors. Check out His Excellency Bishop Jose Ronaldo Ribeiro who is now on trial in Brazil together with five priests on charges including racketeering, money laundering, misrepresentation and embezzlement - all filched from the contributions of the faithful. Apparently parishioners in his previous diocese had complained about his behaviour and failure to provide accounts there. 19,000 people had signed a petition calling for his removal, but still he got promoted.
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DeleteThe Roman Whore will always hitch her skirt for the world and its vanities.😆
Vinnie's definitely impressed someone:
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Wait now and think. The sad and misguided action of Cardinal Murphy O'Connor, making Alan Hopeless an auxiliary bishop, damaged Westminster Diocese. He really was hopeless. God help East Anglia!
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