MY ADVICE TO PROSPECTIVE MAYNOOTH SEMINARIANS
My Dear Prospective Maynooth Seminarian,
When I think of you entering Maynooth my biggest emotion for you is fear.
You are obviously a young (or not so young) man who has a sincere faith in God, say your prayers and feel within you a call to serve God and his people.
Most likely you will have grown up in a Catholic home where your parents and family went to Mass and practiced their religion as best they could.
You have spent some time thinking about your vocation and have probably talked to people like your parents, a local priest and a vocations director. You may also have had a meeting with the bishop.
However, they will not have told you that Maynooth is currently a highly homosexualized place where seminarians and priests have sex with each other, drink in gay bars, attend gay saunas and use apps like Grindr to solicit promiscuous gay sex.
Some seminarians have high profile senior clergy as their sugar daddies and are treated to expensive meals out, designer clothing, 5-star holidays, occasionally a car and often have large sums of money lavished on them.
You will likely be offered poppers and illegal drugs and invited to engage in sadomasochistic sex.
At the same time, you will study philosophy and theology and will be encouraged to dress up in cassocks and lace clothing - which you will be expected to come to love.
If you are heterosexual you will find Maynooth a cold house - unless you are willing to try Bi during your stay there.
If you insist on being chaste and celibate you will be bullied and eventually harassed out of the place.
If you are gay and still want to be celibate and chaste they will melt you like a snowball melts in hell.
If you are gay and sexually active you will have just won the sexual lottery. You will be treated to oral sex, anal sex, bareback sex, BDSM, yellow and brown, leather, and lube, poppers, massage, underwear fetishes etc, etc.
You could think of a religious order but from what I hear you could have similar problems there too :-)
So what to do?
Well, this is not a time to offer yourself at all to the corrupt clergy, bishops and religious superiors of the RC Church with its Cardinal McCarricks, Cardinal Brady's, Cardinal O'Brien, Cardinal Wuerl. Even the pope is tainted.
Look at the video below to get a glimpse of what I mean.
So, stay aware from religious bordellos.
Get yourself a good qualification, get your self a good job. Get yourself a woman or man to love.
And if you feel called to serve God and others, start a house church or a prayer group.
Volunteer to a charity and look after the sick the poor, the homeless, the dying, prisoners.
Give part of your income to charities that give most of your pound or euro to the actual people they help.
And if after all of that you still want to minister find a church or a religious group that practice what they preach or embrace an independent ministry.
Sincerely yours,
+Pat Buckley
You could think of a religious order but from what I hear you could have similar problems there too :-)
So what to do?
Well, this is not a time to offer yourself at all to the corrupt clergy, bishops and religious superiors of the RC Church with its Cardinal McCarricks, Cardinal Brady's, Cardinal O'Brien, Cardinal Wuerl. Even the pope is tainted.
Look at the video below to get a glimpse of what I mean.
So, stay aware from religious bordellos.
Get yourself a good qualification, get your self a good job. Get yourself a woman or man to love.
And if you feel called to serve God and others, start a house church or a prayer group.
Volunteer to a charity and look after the sick the poor, the homeless, the dying, prisoners.
Give part of your income to charities that give most of your pound or euro to the actual people they help.
And if after all of that you still want to minister find a church or a religious group that practice what they preach or embrace an independent ministry.
Sincerely yours,
+Pat Buckley
FIVE OF THE DARK SECRETS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
Bucko. You're cruisin for a bruisin, and i have the boys ready to administer it. You could be the first martyr of the Larne oratory as yet.
ReplyDeletePat, I think you should publish all threatening or abusive comments like this one - intimidation is just another part of the criminal cabal which is the Catholic Church, which remains to be exposed.
DeleteMournemanMichael:
DeleteThus is exposed the ugly malevolent underbelly of religious fanaticism. But Anon @ 00:08 doesn't consider it as such. In such individual 's view violence against any disagreement is fully justified, for it's God's will.
Thus the Crusades, the Inquisition, ISIS, and the like minded fanatic zealots.
Sad really.
Michael
Excellent point, willo.
DeleteIf the comment at 00.08 has anything to do with Maynooth, I think you rest your case Bishop haha!
Delete00:08, if you must make threats, do try to be literate.
DeleteBlows are dealt, not administered. 😆
MournemanMichael
ReplyDeleteI agree and endorse what +Pat advises in his last five paragraphs. Get a good education/qualification, have involvement in charitable activities, all before you get involved in seminary training.
I say that for many reasons, but primarily so you don't enter into a one way street you may later find it difficult to leave.
Many seminarians have found it difficult to face the prospect of leaving with poor alternative employment potential. Many have misguidedly remained, been ordained and spent a subsequent lifetime of miserable unfullfilment compensating with alcohol, furtive sex or worse.
If pastoral clerical life is for you, you can always go back later.
Michael
Furtive sex and overcompensating with alcohol is part and parcel of gay life whether you are a seminarian or not.
Delete09:15, are they really part of gay life? Really? Why? Do they have to be? If 'yes', then doesn't this tell you that 'gay life' (your phrase, and a syllable short of 'gay lifestyle') is innately harmful?
DeletePat it would intresting to conduct a analysis of the source or catalyst for this sudden increase in homosexual behaviour in Maynooth.
ReplyDeleteI don't think that it is sudden.
DeleteHowever it is getting more invasive by the day.
Bishop Pat, it was present in Maynooth when I was there. One seminarian in particular pestered me for sex.
DeleteIt was present also in 'The Wing'.
This years before more recent revelations about Maynooth.
Bishop Pat, I’m a former seminarian and like Magna...I to was pestered and harassed by a known active homosexual student who was subsequently ordained.
DeleteRobin.
Sorry to hear that, Robin.
DeleteI repeatedly refused the guy's advances, but this seemed to make him all the more determined.
Forbidden fruit, 'n' all that. (Er, the deed, not the person!!😨 Harumph!😧)
@14:52 : Thanks Magna...likewise. Couldn’t be talking Magna! Potential scandal and a half! Might be going public so it’s mums the word for now. Robin.
Delete14.52: Magna, surprised the guy didn't run a mile or two on seeing your face!! I remember the ugliness then and I'm sure it's still there, perhaps worse with age and hatred!!!
DeleteWe're agreed, then, 18:47.
DeleteI, too, wish he (they) had run a mile. 😔
So there's a tiny-ish flaw in your memory, isn't there?
Namely, it ain't workin' too reliably, now ain't it?
Guffaw, guffaw, guffaw 😆
@:18:47: We know what preoccupied you!
Delete@:3:06: Homosexual behavior was prevalent in seminarys in the 1970s and 1980s.
DeleteI’m also on the bolshie side this evening.
DeleteMaybe it’s time for an Irish seminarian Me Too?
September 17th all seminarians are returning. Fr. Emyln might kindly escort Wilson to his new room. Pat I wonder what decorative style will Wilson's room be like this formation year. Last year's theme was a teenage girls bedroom.
ReplyDeleteThe Maynooth abuse is Ireland's greatest secret.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous at 06:09
DeleteAre you mad! what secret, its all been published on this blog
God exists as Michael Fanny Mullaney is not rector. Mullaney and his previous rector talks of outbursts of attempting to scare the hell out of seminarians. Pat Mullaney is a joke and a recurring comedy show.
ReplyDeleteWho is Pat Mullaney? Is he a member of the seminary council?
DeletePat Mullaney is a code word for Mullaney secretly feeding Buckley info through the years in order to become President of Maynooth
Delete20:08 is a clear threat to you personally, threatening violence. That is criminal. You really should take that to the police, + Pat. I'm sure they would be able to find where and who it has come from the IP address etc. It should not just be allowed and forgotten about. So, do something about it, + Pat, for your own sake.
ReplyDeleteImagine the scenario. Pat Buckle found in a heap in an alleyway in Larne, PSNI forensics identify blunt force trauma to his body consistent with being struck many times by metal croziers! LOL,,,,,,,LOL,,,LOL
ReplyDelete2008 & 0913 should be reported to the PSNI for violent, threatening behaviour. It is not LOL stuff. It is a threat to + Pat and to his life. If you were to make these comments about a politician in NI you would be hunted down by the PSNI. What makes you think that you can make these threats against + Pat ?
DeletePaul finn here, luke mcConnell has named me on his Facebook for sending these threats I've spoke to fathe pat and have told him personally I have nothing to do with these disgusting threats and I agree farther pat should report them to the police and track the ip address, I don't know where luke mcConnell gets the idea that I have any problems with father pat I certainly don't, I've spoke to father pat buckley on the phone about luke mcconnoll which he can confirm this, luke likes to use father pat buckley name when harassing people on Facebook and it was very clear from talking to father pat that he didn't know about this
Delete00.08
ReplyDeleteYou are being traced and will be identified.
grow up billy boy. I thought you were busy apostatizing?
DeleteApostatizing is not a business.
DeleteIt is a step taken by those whose eyes have been opened and can take no more.
09.21: Billy Boy, you've caused enough hurt already to many people. Your threats to others will get you into serious trouble soon. After last week's histrionics and meltdown, don't you think a time of serene, silent reflection is more appropriate? Be a hero, but be an honourable, just one like many of the clerics I encounter in my life, who, while very upset about scandals, continue to change and renew from within. It's often been said - we grow where we're planted. Good advice which I follow as I give my energy to making anew the vineyard in my care. It is "fruitfully" rewarding.
DeleteI have very regular contact with Bill.
DeleteThere was no meltdown last week.
Any priest who does not publicly condemn and disown the current all pervading corruption in the RC Church shares in tge responsible for it.
Many clerics are blooming where they are planted.
The problem is that many of them are poisonous weeds!
And what about the poison that you spew on this blog? You allow things to be said or you say them yourself, but do you ever check the source or contact those who you would condemn? You are so full of hatred that you are blind to yourself.
DeleteSo this post might not get published as it challenges you - or if you do publish then you will respond with sanctimonious condescending claptrap.
I do t give one fiddlers F..ks about who you trace. SIMPLE AS SHIT MULVIHILL.
Delete10.16: Of course there was meltdown, breakdown, threatening comments, dangerous, hateful words, apoplectic images of horror to come, all because the Boyo Mulvihill realises priesthood wasn't for him. He has left much hurt in his madness. The cheek of him now to play victim. Bill, if you go into journalism, go back to school to learn how to write properly, grammatically and otherwise - in a coherent way.
Delete09.21: More bullyboy tactics from a deluded fool. Mad raving, immature behaviour. Get to grips with your life.
DeleteAfter the departure of big Mick, I’d be amazed if there were any new sissies for sissy school this year.
ReplyDelete10.10
ReplyDeleteWhat threats?
The murder of Du Plantier by a Garda ?
ReplyDeleteThe arrest and imprisionment of an innocent party connected to Dunleer.
ReplyDeleteShall I go on....rip out my tongue or finish me off. I shall not be silenced.
ReplyDeleteMulvihill at 11:02
DeleteIf only we cold rip out your tongue, and shut you up with your mad rants.
Blockheads! Have these lads no healthy shame, dignity or self respect? At a time when members of the Christian Community in ‘hotspots’ in various parts of the world are literally being beheaded for their faith...modern day martyrs....these cosseted lads in catholic colleges are carrying on for kicks! Maybe some of them need to do their pastoral experience in some of these hotspots to take their minds off cyberspace...etc. That would soften their cough, put the wind up em and bring on a rush of caca they’d never forget! Outrageous stuff!
ReplyDeleteFor many gays, the only downside to Maynooth will be becoming a priest at the end of it. Apart from that, it sounds like gay paradise.
ReplyDeleteNot really...they will then graduate into the diocesan gay cabal.
DeleteI shall soon contribute to an International Journal my interaction with two Police Forces, intimately connected to the catholic church....scholarly books by Irish writers...female...and recent. Mc Quaid was the Chief Police Commissioner of the Irish State recently replaced by an International Intelligence Officer...current....lol...lol...lol
ReplyDeleteWhen you do, you might want to leave out your claim that you suffered rectal bleeding as the result of a kidney injury as that's physiologically impossible.
DeleteMulvihill... What are you raving about????
DeleteEvery blog from you has me puzzelled!
And FYI Im currently a GP working in the North.
@11;35: FYI: London School of Journalism...LSJ. ORG
Delete@11:35: Don’t give too much away...keep em on the edge of their seats...and send em home sweatin!
ReplyDeleteMaynooth is revolting however as we have seen it has the ability to set people free to roam altars down in Cork. VAMA will set us all free, Pat when is the next VAMA protest?
ReplyDeleteBill, why did you take so long to leave? Your silence in the previous decades is damning.
ReplyDeletePat did you see John Waters interpretation of what Francis said to the reports on the flight back from Dublin? Here it is:
ReplyDeleteAnd when you read the pope’s response again in light of what has happened—or not happened—in the several days since, it acquires an ominous tenor, inviting a stab at a new translation. Here is mine:
Read the statement in the knowledge of the relationship you and I share: We are men and women of the world and like-minded on what is important. We know where we stand on matters like homosexuality and homosexual priests. But be careful how you handle this Viganò business—a wrong word could undo all we have achieved. I have faith in you to figure out who this man is. Do your work well and there will be no need for me to risk my position. Once you have defused the situation, I will deal with Viganò for the record. We are all adults here. I know I can count on you. I need your help on this, but we have an understanding that has worked well so far. Trust me.
And yet, all of this highly personal speculation on the meaning of Pope Francis' cryptic response would fall by the way IF the pope simply stopped his suspicious, and self-harming, mind games by answering Vigano's very serious accusation directly.
DeleteHere's another, highly personal interpretation of Francis' words:
Shit! If you freakin' think I'm going to give a direct response to this Vigano thorn-in-my-flesh then you're intrinsically disordered. Why? Cos Vigano is telling the truth, but...hell!...I'm not going to confirm this. Hence the, er, caca on the matter from me.
But hey! You guys in the Press, especially the liberal wing, have been supportive of me to date; you know: more likely than not to give me the benefit of the doubt whenever I found myself in caca of any sort. So can we continue this mutually pleasant arrangenent? You interpret my caca (sorry 'words')on this occasion with your usual, er, generousity to me. Just like John Waters has done.
@13:44: Magna... As perceptive as ever! You’ve given me a laugh and a half!
DeleteRobin.
Anonymous at 14:00
DeleteI wonder if that's all she's gave you, sounds like Batman and Robin.
Be circumspect, 14:36. Got-'em city is a small place.
DeleteYou can be found.
WE can find you.
And when we do...😎
@14:57: Magna: Reports just in...there’s a rash of jokers penguins and toddlers...correction...riddlers.. on the move ...heading for Kildare...Ireland. The batmobile is warming up and batgirl is ready for action! Robin.
DeleteEr, look down, Robin. It's Batboy, not batgirl. BATBOY!
DeleteAnd for heaven's sake Robin, don't say 'ready for action', especially with an exclamation mark (!). Could be misconstrued, especially by some of the seedier minds on this blog.
Better say something less ambiguous: less a doublé entendre. What about 'dyin' t' get at 'em, Batman! (No! That could suggest an orgy.)
Er, 'rarin' t' go-go, Batman!' (Scotch that! Sounds suspiciously homo-cute.)
Or 'Batmobile's purrin' and my engine's revvin', Batman!' (Shit! How gay can you get?)
Robin, have we time to learn sign language? 😎
@ 18:15: Magna: The original cape crusaders included Batgirl.
DeleteGuess what? She’s all grown up!!! Robin.
21:46, WTF! You mean? Is Robin transmale?@
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DeleteThe Maynooth escort network is still thriving.
ReplyDeletein the imagination of mythomaniacs
DeleteHow many new first year seminarians are there this year?
ReplyDeleteMaynooth
DeleteIf you going into journalism , Bill, you need to improve on how you type your information.
ReplyDeleteAs an ordinary lay person I struggle to follow what you are on about .
Just saying.
@12:45: The Maynooth escort network, if there is one, is doing the work of the Devil and his angels.
ReplyDelete12.40
ReplyDelete"Anonymous"?????????!!!!!!!!!! like most on this site......How dare you ?
Again, your silence speaks volumes.
DeleteNo doubt vocations to the Priesthood are down and desperate times call for desperate measures but are we as a Church that desperate re Bishop Pats article. Why not bring back into ministry some men who left ministry to marry? The country’s riddled with them.
ReplyDeleteI could accept those who showed integrity by resigning their ministry once they realised they wanted romantic relationship more than celibate priesthood.
DeleteBut NOT those dishonest and deceitful enough to straddle the two, and who packed in ministry only AFTER being outed.
(I was about to mention Ciaran Dallat here, but then, he was so devoid of integrity that he stubbornly remained in ministry after the public scandal of his apparently fathering a child and abandoning the mother while she was giving birth.)
I agree. We lost some very good men who went on to get laicised and marry. Some people would say they let the side down badly by walking away. However, I think they had the courage and integrity to leave and to be honest and open and were prepared to face the consequences and often the rude awakening of re-entering civilian life again. I think it would be a gracious and forgiving gesture to invite them back. These men had to learn to stand on their own two feet outside the material advantages which clerical life bestows. So they would not be a financial burden and I'm sure their experience of work and marriage has broadened their awareness of how most parishioners live. They would not undermine their celibate collegaues. I think they could be a very good support to them in so many ways.
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DeleteSome married Priests could be invited back after a process of discernment and the meeting of particular criteria to be determined..etc...We don’t need a new crop of problems. The Rc Church in Ireland could be a trial initiative for the introduction of married Priests to the wider Church. Meanwhile Maynooth would probably need to close for a few years....anyone worth their salt study elsewhere. Maynooth ownership to be retained by the Church but partly leased to the powers that be to...for example...house some out of home families while social houses are built.
In tandum a commission of experts from a variety of backgrounds could study compulsory celibacy in the context of the modern world...church scandals...and whatever else. After a through review and assuming the trial is successful an entire new faculty to return to Maynooth after a suitable period of time to include married Priests, Priests, Religious and spouse of a married Priest plus lay staff. Maynooth is contaminated and an ingrained culture which is a contagion is to my mind impossible to root out! Any takers?
Really good point
ReplyDeleteCollins needs to step down and address the affair issue instead of hiding in Maynooth. Its ok Mick we all make mistakes.
ReplyDeletePat look more closely into the year Collins had to repeat in seminary a massive scandal. Dont worry Mick all the lads are fully debrified on you.
ReplyDeleteA few days ago you published a list of abuser priests. On that list was Andrew Allen op. Andy was lacized only last calender year. Andy had the distinction of being the first Catholic priest since the penal days to be sent to prison.
ReplyDeleteAfter his prison spell his then provincial Larry Collins, not Administrator of st Dominics parish Tallaght Archdiocese of Dublin, wanted to make Andy feel important and good about himself. So he put him in charge of a residence in co kildare that children from disadvantaged backgrounds used to go to. He gave Andy a cheque book and a generous budget just to make 'poor' Andy feel important. If Andys record in Trinidad is ever looked into......
BIshop Buckley did you inform Bishop FIntan of Collins's illcit past and current behaviour. The man is not wise either from post trauma or maybe its his dyslexia. Collins is a deeply troubled messes up man.
ReplyDeleteVAMA needs to unite the Maynooth Survivors and empower them to share their stories at the hands of Mullaney, Prior and Collins.
ReplyDeleteA few digs for the mad Mulvihill wouldn't go amiss.
ReplyDeleteVAMA needs to act upon a test case against current and historic Maynooth abuse. Those abusers on staff and senior theology seminarians must face the courts.
ReplyDeleteTo hell with solicitors letters.. Take Bucko and the Madd Mull up the Cooley Mountains one dark night for some serious "re-education". Much cheaper and highly effective. These boyos need a lesson.
ReplyDeleteCooley mountains: isn't this where the 'Long Woman' is buried? Reputed to have been, from the length of the grave, at least fifteen feet tall?
DeleteHmm A lot of eejits live in the Cooley mountains, don't they? Inbreds?
Know any? 😆
Magna at 18:24
DeleteOf course, YOU!
Pat I have studied Collins for many years and believe he has a split personality. The poor man has no social Skills, lacks empathy and thinks he is in control of his students.
ReplyDeleteEx Fr. Derwin is a pizza delivery man now in Rathmines. Pat everything collapsed under Hughie and Mullaney.
ReplyDeleteWilson used to love going clothes shopping with Paul Prior.
ReplyDeleteWilson stalker alert
DeleteSeminarian stalker alert. Who cares about your obsessions? Get help.
DeletePat, Fr Mullaney in one of his reactors talks called you a fake Bishop. Pat in the eyes of the survivors you have revealed the hidden sick truth of Maynooth seminary abuse. Pat , Fr Mullaney attempted to defame your character. Mullaney is fond of defamation of character.
ReplyDelete16:16 You’d know all about character defamation, coward.
DeleteAnonymous at 16:16
DeleteDoes it surprise you that Fr. Mullaney defamed Buckleys character? He was only returning the favor as this blog has repeatedly defamed his charachter. Quite right too.
Are they keeping the number of new entrants secret, Bp Pat? Pure as the driven snow and turned into whores in no time.
ReplyDeleteFrank is suggesting that the devil is behind sex abuse cover up and that he (the devil) has it in for bishops. You couldn't make this up !!!!!!!!!!!! Does thios mean that the devil was in the formation team that passed these deviants as fit for the priesthood, and also in the bishops that covered up for them as well as being in the deviants themselves? You're not too far off the mark after all Magna me aul flower. /www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6155521/Vatican-official-Sex-abuse-scandal-churchs-9-11.html.
ReplyDeleteIf the Mail is your source, it says it all.
DeleteThe devil was in porky Montgomery then!!
ReplyDeleteNo the devil was in the cute Aussie who gave Montitty a dig in the bake.
DeleteFrank’s ramblings were particularly incoherent yesterday at Domus Sanctae Marthae ( that’s your actual Latin for those who like that kind of thing ) - and what the hell were all those clerics doing just sitting there listening to him on a busy Tuesday morning? If I understood him correctly, the Devil has no business with the porker, but is actively prompting folks like you and me to question the judgment of the bishops, to think they are covering up heinous crimes and therefore not to trust them ! According to Frank that’s Satanic not all the shit the bishops have enabled.
DeleteInteresting contemporary development in U.K. of sucking up to priests by affluent middle class parents in order to get their kids into over-subscribed Catholic schools. They are over-subscribed not because of whom they let in, but whom they keep out. It’s a kind of educational apartheid under the cover of faith preference. As Zoe Williams writes in today’s Guardian, nobody believes the parents’ new found religiousity, which evaporates as soon as they’ve played the system, but it buys them privilege and the clergy love the exercise of power and whatever goodies they get out of it. This is a social evil funded not even indirectly by the tax payer but directly. Parents laugh about and despise the clergy who will do anything for a free muffin - though they get a hell of a lot more than that - and run rings round these twats.
ReplyDeleteNationalise ALL schools. 😠(Feeling rather Bolshie tonight.😆)
Delete18.55 you are a delinquent. Catholic schools are top of the table worldwide. It seems you can’t stomach the truth.
Delete18.55: Catholic Schools in Britian are over subscribed because they have proved to be excellent schools. Parents recognise the philosophy and ethos of Catholic schools which strive always to be the best, to give the best education possible to children, academically, socially, artistically, musically, spiritually/faith based, ethically, holistically, enabling each pupil discover his/her potential. I've worked in such schools and proud to have done so. Say what you like, it's been my experience that in Britain Catholic schools are the best.
Delete“A delinquent”? What are you - some choleric old Catholic Head? Would you like to give me a good thrashing with trousers down, like that old pervy monk ( Abbot actually ) at St Benedict’s, Ealing, who got 18 years earlier this year for the way he dealt with “delinquents”.
DeleteMC 19:22
DeleteFeeling rather Bolshie tonight. you're always Bolshie.
Interesting point, 20:41.
DeleteIf Catholic schools are indeed 'top of the table worldwide', why might this be?
An interesting sociological question. Might it be that teachers here are better qualified, and more adroit educators, than their non-Catholic counterparts?
Or might their be some mysterious, and scientifically unexplored, enhancing neurological connection between intelligence and Catholicism? (You know: that God's chosen people are Catholics alone, really, and that their heightened IQ is his way of showing it.)
Or might it be nothing more than the fact that Catholic schools with a reputation for academic excellence tend to attract the brightest students, the preponderance of which come from wealthier families (which, of course, can afford the fees these schools-for-the-privileged charge?
Yes, God is most definitely a capitalist.
(Accordin', like.😆)
Pat, Maynooth should be shut down, it is not fit for purpose. Sick of hearing about the damage it has done to ordinary young men. The Dioceses should form their own seminarians, have them working and serving first hand where one can see are they suitable or not. All these fellas are waited on hand and foot, they need to learn to serve to get their hands dirty. Also, many careerists within Dioceses are doing Doctorates in Theology etc, use these priests to help with lecturing etc.Maynooths reputation would turn any prospective seminarian off, terrible brand. Jim
ReplyDelete14.36
ReplyDeleteIts your tunnelled education that makes it difficult for you....G.P.s generally are so focused on the medical sciences that anything in the Humanities is taxing. Be patient with yourself .
OMG. Why are there still sickos on this blog trying to defend the indefensible? Do you not care what is going on in the RC church? Is it one big laugh for you? Seriously, young men who have chosen to serve God are being abused, harassed. Where is Christ in this behaviour? And yet some of you are threatening or condemning people like Pat, Bill or Magna for highlighting this despicable and evil behaviour. Why will the RC church not let married men( or women) who feel they have been called by God become priests. It does NOT say anywhere in the bible that a married person cannot become a priest. Quite the opposite. I agree with a previous comment that this could go some way to changing the current situation. The RC church hierarchy is not about ministry of God's word. It is about power and control at any cost, including destroying lives. All you who post here trying to defend the RC church are as guilty of the actions carried out by abusing clergy. Your silence makes you complicit in their actions. You are either with Christ or against him. There's no grey area, no in between. The actions of the abusers is completely against Christ teachings which makes those who abuse, cover up or even defend these people against Christ himself. It is way past time to waken up and smell the coffee. Surely it is now time to say enough is enough. Born into a religious Catholic family I'm glad I have enough conviction to say to these bastards "Not in my name"
ReplyDeleteWavering ???
DeleteWhy does a sicko like you still call yourself Catholic? as you are not. It is time for us to say enough is enough. Stop using that title you are not worthy of it. We have all heard your hateful
rhetoric over and over again. You're as bad as that drunken old fanny Magna filled with a despicable hatred about anything Catholic. You say you were born into a religious Catholic family, they must be appalled by you. I hope they have disowned you, just take your convictions and Feck off to hell where you belong.
After todays contribution, its pleasing to know the Irritable can be Irritated.
ReplyDeleteAs for spelling and grammar, my contributions here are always deliberately erroneous . I have been well trained. Shalom.
Any school can climb the league tables by selecting its intake. Faith criteria are a form of covert selection giving pushy articulate middle-class parents the means to bulldoze their way into desirable schools which are comprehensive in name only. In the worst case - but fairly typical - scenario, local Catholic children whose parents don’t butter up the parish priest are left to the sink school, while middle-class parents who are expert in playing the system drive their kids across the city to create a “center of excellence” which actively discriminates against the local Catholic population it is meant to serve. Catholic schools are top of the table ( and what an impoverished standard with which to judge education, Catholic or otherwise, by the way ) at the expense of justice and fairness. Religion is a racket: that’s the truth.
ReplyDeleteMournemanMichael to Anon@ 22:07:
DeleteWhat you say is very true. But religion is not the sole criteria for much of the current manipulation of the educational system, especially in English schools.
At its heart is the political failure to understand, support and encourage the professional integrity which inspires the majority of teachers entering the profession. This failure to understand professionalism applies to other disciplines in the health and social services in addition to education.
Beginning with Thatcherism, political judgements of "good" ability of those working in public services relied increasingly on quantifiable data. Thus the proliferation of league tables for exam results, hospital beds turnover, etc: all those neat and tidy statistics beloved of politicians.
As a consequence has grown a whole growth industry for those adept at managing the system, adroit in massaging the results to best effect.
For those unfamiliar with how the system works, consider this.Which surgeon is the better: the one who takes on the most time consuming, complicated, demanding and potentially life threatening operations, or another one who consciously avoids such scenarios knowing they might adversely affect his 'operational success statistics', which he can boost by opting for the routine safe operations?
This same scenario applies in educational selection criteria under many guises, often religion being foremost.
I have heard this time and time again from so many ex and present public service workers of every level, but particularly educationalists.
Michael
Bp Pat, your advice will fall on... I was going to say, deaf ears. But it's slumbering cocks you're up against here. Given the option of big Mick Lomansey, or celibacy, I know what I would choose, Bp Pat... every time.
ReplyDeletePat why did Des Hillary protect Collins during the exposed affair. These questions require Mick to take time out and reflect to see where was Michael in all this.
ReplyDeleteMichael Collins so many stupid mistakes. At least he has cut down on the drink.
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