Sunday 16 September 2018

GORGEOUS HAS ALL THE CACA


DEACON MICHAEL GORGEOUS BYRNE HAS SO MANY SECRETS ABOUT MAYNOOTH, PRIESTS AND BISHOPS THAT IF HE WERE TO SPEAK OUT HE COULD BRING DOWN THE HIERARCHY AND CLERGY.




In the Anthony Murphy interview Father Marsden says:

Notorious seminarian threatens Fr. Marsden

Father Marsden challenged one of the most notorious homosexual seminarians about his disordered lifestyle but was given an arrogant response “my bishops knows, the seminary council knows, my spiritual director knows – none of them have a problem with it so neither should you” – in other words shut up this is none of your business. It was after this encounter that Fr. Marsden knew it was now not possible to conduct proper formation in the seminary as such widespread dissent of Church’s teaching was blatant amongst the seminary council and the spiritual directors. It was at this point that he wrote a letter to Mons. Connolly tendering his resignation.
When Father Marsden tried to raise the problems he was seeing in the seminary with the Church authorities the response was to not only ignore his concerns but to ridicule him for raising them in the first place. He recalls one very high ranking cleric stating that “you see gays under the bed!” I wonder what he would think of that statement now in the wake of the McCarrick scandal.
In the end Father Marsden could no longer work in the seminary and retain his integrity so he chose to resign from what he describes as “institution riddled by systemic disobedience to Church teaching”
It was reported in the secular press during the summer of 2016 that the reason for his resignation was a conflict of theological outlook but this was incorrect. There certainly was a huge divergence of theological opinion with many of Fr Marsden’s friends being amazed at how long he managed to stay in the seminary. It was the issue of homosexuality which brought things to a head. The seminary has long been a ‘cesspool of liberal theology and heterodoxy’ and so those few staff members, down through the years, who maintained a fidelity to the Magisterium were often isolated and subtly persecuted.

I MADE VERY CAREFUL INQUIRIES YESTERDAY AND I AM RELIABLY INFORMED THAT THE "NOTORIOUS" SEMINARIAN" WAS MICHAEL GORGEOUS BYRNE.


Gorgeous told Marsden:

“my bishops knows, the seminary council knows, my spiritual director knows – none of them have a problem with it so neither should you” – in other words shut up this is none of your business.


During the two hours long texting communication Gorgeous told me that DIARMUID MARTIN  knew all about him and had , which I have retained,no issues with him.


I cannot believe how a seminarian was allowed to become so powerful as to be able to manipulate Maynooth staff, clergy, and even bishops.

INFORMATION IS POWER.

Gorgeous is the holder of a lot of information of all kinds - including information on the sex lives of priests and bishops.

GORGEOUS' GOLDEN HANDSHAKE:

In this picture he looks as if he OWNS the Pro-Cathedral presbytery in Dublin.



Diarmuid Martin tried to save Gorgeous by taking him out of Maynooth and sending him to The Irish College in Rome. However, the damage was done and Gorgeous could not survive without bringing the whole house down with him.

Do Diarmuid Martin & Co did a secret deal with Gorgeous.

Did it involve lying low with a future ordination promised?

Did it involve a large lump sum for disappearance?

Did it involve a monthly maintenance grant for a short or long period?

Did it involve a position somewhere?

And Gorgeous' side of the deal was never to reveal all he knows about bishops and priests.

And that will work for a while. Gorgeous will talk sooner or later and spill all the beans and some bishops and priests are hoping that they will be dead when the spilling happens.


Marsden has pushed the door slightly open so we can see inside.

Gorgeous could fling the door wide open and if he does the Caca  mountain will come flowing out.




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THE DERRY CLERICAL CHANGES

The Bishop of Derry, Dr Donal McKeown has announced a number of changes in the Derry Diocese.
The changes are as follows:
Rev Chris Ferguson, CC Glendermott and Strathfoyle and Chaplain to the hospitals in Derry City, on relinquishing these appointments to become Diocesan Vocations Director and Priest in Residence Three Patrons Parish.
Rev Sean O’Donnell, CC Glendermott and Strathfoyle, in addition to be nominated for appointment as Chaplain to the hospitals in Derry City.
Rev Ignacy Saniuta of the Diocese of Vitebsk (Belarus) to be CC Drumragh and Chaplain to the Polish speaking community in the diocese.
Rev Kevin Mulhern SMA CC Three Patrons to be nominated to join the Chaplaincy team at Magilligan Prison.

Rev Declan McGeehan, Deacon, to minister in Cappagh parish.
Rev James Devine, CC Limavady to spend a year with the Marian Fathers of the Immaculate Conception.
Rev Patrick Mullan CC Faughanvale and Lower Cumber to retire and continue to reside in the parish.


Rev Eugene Boland, having previously stepped aside from public ministry in 2014, has accepted the outcome of the process initiated at that time and has retired into restricted ministry.
He will continue to assist in a capacity compatible with the restriction applied to this ministry.


The Bishop added: "It would be important for us to keep in our prayers all those who will be engaged with changes in the coming weeks."

224 comments:

  1. Anyone know when we are due changes in Down and Connor ?

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    1. 2 years ago the changes were in November in D & C

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    2. They're getting their first batch of permanent deacons in October. Major changes can be expected after that.

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  2. Bishop Pat - do you suspect that Gorgeous has something on Diarmuid specifically? From the sounds of things - if what you're reporting is true - Diarmuid went above and beyond to try to ensure his ordination. Can't but wonder why.

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  3. Ah! So much f**kin' speculation.

    Provide us with incontrovertible, proof, Bishop Pat.

    For once.

    Please.

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    1. You were just like this as a child, Magna darling. I remember trying to tell you about the secret prayer at Mass and saying it was secret because the priest was talking quietly to God, not to us, but you wouldn't have it. You wanted to know what the secret was, and you were very disappointed when I told you the prayer was in the missal and not secret. You were convinced there was some secret you had to break.

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    2. Mad Magna Caca at 23:15

      Oh! Polly, can you not construct a sentence without a swear word.

      Just once.

      Please.

      Lack of vocabulary.

      Love and prayers B.
      Eviva Maria!

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  4. Gorgeous made Fr. Marsden quit? Good man Michael for standing up to that bully.

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  5. A huge amount of yesterday’s blog’s comments couldn’t be accessed.

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    1. There were 300. There may have been a technical problem?

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    2. @23:19

      Scroll down and click 'load more' at the end of each page.

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    3. If you scroll to the end and click load more until no longer able, about twice, then read scrolling back, you should get them all.

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  6. Totally agreeing with Magna for the 2nd time today @23.15! That's unprecedented. I've never witnessed such 'clutching at straws' on this blog as this latest tripe from you Pat. You have no evidence, you rarely have, same old tactic of raking up the past in the hope of getting more salacious gossip. You even sadly reproduce some of yesterdays blog.

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    1. I believe Fr Marsden as well 23:22. It is the likes of you who have brought the most shame and scandal upon the Church in her entire history. God help ye. Ye will all burn in hell unless ye repent. I will be keeping my sons and grandsons a hundred miles away from Gaynooth.

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    2. 08:49, so far this is a he said-she said matter. As such, it comes down to a simple choice: whom to believe?

      I have never met any of those involved (or allegedly involved), so I cannot, in good conscience, plump for Fr Marsden's version of events because...well, because Bishop Pat believes Marsden, even though he does not know him personally, but only indirectly, through others' comments and his own assumptions about him. That, frankly, is not enough for me, and it shouldn't be enough for anyone else.

      Anthony Murphy is a journalist, and editor of a theologically orthodox (right-wing) Catholic newspaper. It is interesting that Marsden chose to speak to Murphy, but hardly surprising, given Marsden's own preference for strict towing of magisterial teaching.

      This, in the opinion of very many, makes both men homophobic, since that teaching is increasingly being challenged (including here in Ireland) for its perceived extreme pronouncements on homosexuality.

      Homophobia is a psychological reality (an irrational antipathy and bias), not an aspersion typically cast by angry homosexuals at their opponents.

      This, then, raises a reasonable question about the reliability of Fr Marsden's claims, and the journalistic integrity of Anthony Murphy.

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    3. Well said Magna! Totally agree with your assessment above. Just one question on Orthodoxy though- if you disagree with this type of orthodoxy ie the right wing traditional variety, does that make me a heretic?? (Watch the comments roll now!)

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    4. 15:30, not necessarily.

      Heresy is not the post-baptismal denial of CORE religious teaching (dogmas, like the Eucharist, the Resurrection, etc), but PERSISTENT denial of it after a formal correction.

      Heresy can be incurred also upon PERSISTENT doubt of such teaching after being corrected about it.

      If I were to deny, or even to doubt, the Resurrection of Jesus and remained in either of these states after correction, then I should, according to Canon Law, be deemed a heretic and would suffer the prescribed penalty: excommunication from the sacraments.

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    5. Thanks Magna buddy - nice to know I'm still in full communion with the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Now to polish the halo ��

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    6. Anonymous at 15:30

      Well normally if you agreed with Magna you would be a heretic, especially if you're of the left wing liberal variety. Magna is not just a heretic but also an apostate, as you must be aware if you read her disgusting comments. Eviva Maria!

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  7. Buckley, what tripe you dish up in your vindictive anti Catholic crap. You are so full of hatred, it is now all consuming. How you celebrate the SACRED Eucharist with your sex obsessed mind begs many questions about your spiritual integrity. You even resort now to repeating stuff you've blogged about before. You are an amoral scumbag.

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    1. Good man Pat. Great to see you are giving that coven of bitches in Gaynooth a good rattling. Top of the morning 00:05! Nice to see you enjoyed yesterday's blog! LOL. :)

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    2. Yep. It's like disturbing a wasps nest.

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  8. Just have a read of the comments in this yahoo page re Dutch clerical sex abuse coverups reported Saturday. The wholescale cover-up of sex abuse is killing the Catholic Church.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sex-abuse-claims-rock-dutch-catholic-church-150928693.html?.tsrc=fauxdal&guccounter=1

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  9. The Catholic Church is breaking apart. Here is why.

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/jonathan-v-last/vigano-letter-mccarrick-wuerl-and-pope-francis-are-breaking-the-catholic-church

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    1. @oo:36; There's civil law, canon law, murphy's law...and...no man's land! '...and darkness covered the earth'.

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    2. @00:36; What's the betting; they'll be,..a sign off, a baton change and an F2 before too long...!

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    3. @00:26;00:36;00:11:27; 'These people honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.'

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    4. I know now why Bergoglio is always preaching about "slander" and "gossip"; the reason is he wants to suppress the truth coming out about his tenure as AB in Argentina. However, many Catholics are now refusing to be shamed or put on guilt trips by him as he attempts to arrogate scriptural passages to suit his own sordid agenda.

      No man is above secular and Divine laws - even if he is a Pope.

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    5. @00:36;00:11:27; When Cardinals have to resign, we're into 'Three Wheels on my Wagon' territory and we're still rolling along! There are duties, obligations and responsibilities...to the Lord...and just desserts! Lines have to be drawn!There are men and women in the Church keeping an eye on the 'Holy Land', before these 'cowboys' were scuttering yellow caca into their terry cloths! Time now,for the many good men in the Priesthood to have moral courage and organise with colleagues who can be trusted or go it alone, if needs be and start whatever initiative is deemed appropriate. Do it discreetly if needs be. Have moral courage! You're not letting down the Rc but JC. Watch this space for what happens when you venture into no man's land!

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    6. @00;36:&11:27;&15:30:12:31;19:54.
      There's civil law, canon law, murphy's law, no mans land...a free for all! '...and darkness covered the earth'...'...'Three days of darkness'...! '...Fear not little flock...be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect...go in peace to...'! A Monk.

      P.S. Watch this space for 'Post Darkness'.

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    7. @20:58.

      There's civil law, canon law, murphy's law, no mans land...a free for all! '...and darkness covered the earth'...'...Three days of darkness...'!...'Fear not little flock...be perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect...go in peace...'The fear of THE LORD is the beginning of wisdom.
      (Secondary level stuff}.
      'You will see an incredible release of my Spirit over this Land'.(Ireland).
      Ta Se ag teacht ... Maranatha!... Come Lord Jesus!

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  10. Rev. James Devine (excellent priest) is gone for good to the Marian Fathers, not just for a year and who would blame him. Why can Bishop McKeown not just be honest? How many years now is it since Fr. Brendan Collins went for a "1 year" sabbatical?
    Tell the truth Bishop.

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    1. James Devine is just another example of a genuine vocation/priest getting out of the now fully paganised homosexual diocesan system which is imploding all around the bishops as they do nothing.

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    2. James Devine was ordained in 2012. I was there at his ordination in the Long Tower Church. A very devoted man, great love for the Mass and liturgy. He has been assigned to Limavady Parish in the diocese for the majority of his time as curate. and now his departure has left Limavady parish of over 9,000 Catholics with just ONE resident priest - Monsignor Bryan McCanny who I believe is about near his 70s. Well down McKeown, not bothering to provide a curate there.

      Bishop McKeown has decided that the new deacon, Declan McGeehan should go to Omagh, why? They have three resident priests there, and that is not where the need is, Limavady is where he should have been sent to try and help McCanny, but no, McKeown doesn't like McCanny, and so sent McGeehan to Omagh, a parish which seems to always get treated very well. Omagh has the same parish population as the diocesan cathedral of St Eugene, but gets three clergy, whilst the cathedral has to make do with just two. Administrative madness.

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    3. Why is Declan McGeehan not finishing his studies in Rome? Questions need to be asked

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    4. Hi Sean Fitzpatrick

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    5. @1137 Declan McGeehan has completed his studies in Rome. He's in a parish now, which is where an ordained diocesan minister should be!

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    6. I really hope that Fr Devine is only going to the Marian Fathers for a year as stated in the changes. How can Bishop McKeown allow this given the diocese is running out of priests - a fellow priest went to the Dominicans a couple of years ago and wont be back.
      Fr Mulhern being taken out of parish and nominated to be a prison chaplain again - whats that all about - can he still not be in a parish.
      What the hell is Donal playing at with these changes?

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    7. "He's in a parish now, which is where an ordained diocesan minister should be!" observes 18:29, correctly. Try telling that to Timbo!

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  11. Byrne controlled seminary Council. One incident Byrne was giving out to Daniel Shields in the College Chapel, Byrrne wanted Daniel to suffer so he phoned Mullaney on his mobile and Mullaney came running over to the resucse of Byrne and tore into Daniel Shields. Byrne has no so much power over Mullaney.

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  12. Pat considering the tripe that was published yesterday, and how you jumped on the band wagon throwing allegations all over the place to see what will stick, I can't help but feel that you are clutching at straws in a last ditch attempt to throw mud.

    This article sounds like sonething that came from the mouth of David Marsden to justify why he left Maynooth. Frankly it holds no sway with me. Judging by the comments yesterday it was Marsden that was the cause of all the trouble, and author of his own destiny.

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    1. +Pat -I'm sorry to pursue this, but can you explain WHY you believe Marsden? For the life of my I can't see or understand why you would believe that traditional, right wing homophobe. Anyone that wandered the cloisters of Maynooth secretly obsessed and inquiring about another man's sexual thoughts and desires clearly has deep seated psychology problems themselves. If he were a student he would be out. He was clearly unsuited for the role. Just out of interest, was he replaced or was the role made redundant? Mixing psychology and vocation is a dangerous game.

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    2. Pat also supports Anthony Murphy who is also right wing amongst other things

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    3. A very fair question.

      Father Marsden and I are at different ends of the liberal / traditional scale.

      I have talked to seminarians and ex-seminarians who spoke very highly of him and his help and support for them.

      Marsden may be homophobic?

      Or he may think that active sexuality has no place in the priesthood?

      But I believe he is a spiritual man and is not a liar.

      Just imagine what he was dealing with in Maynooth.

      Of course I may be wrong about him as I've never encountered him.

      For now I believe him.

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    4. 09:17

      I don't SUPPORT Anthony Murphy.

      He does not need my support and is his own man.

      Our views differ greatly.

      But Anthony is sincere and has a great sense of humour.

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    5. Paul Prior was the one who was guilty of such mixing of pseudo psychology and vocation 09:13, projecting his own rancid thought processes. Fr Marsden is a man of courage and integrity.

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    6. Pat you talk a lot of lies from that mouth of yours. Who could ever trust you? You were proven to be a liar before and nothing has changed. You can dismiss knowing certain people all you like but some of the bishops even talk about you and Anthony Murphy.

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    7. The bishops are either gay, stupid or cowards or a combination thereof. They will burn in hell for their abject inaction and ineptitude over that whores den, Gaynooth. May God have mercy on them.

      I see poor old Fr Marsden is being tarred with usual slanders of a Gaynooth whistleblower. You are in my prayers Fr Marsden.

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    8. Kitty Drury, Ledwith, McCarrick, Cupich, Tobin, Wuerl, Coccopalmerio, Danneels, Murphy-O'Connor and Bergoglio are all left-wing.

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    9. And they are all either perverts or pervert protectors 17:39.

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  13. Michael Collins during his tenure as junior dean, reported Byrne to Diarmaid and raised the issue of dysfunctional behaviour patterns. The question which Michael Collins needs to clarify is why did he deem Byrne fit for ordination many years later. Did Byrne know about Collins and threatened him?.

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  14. Prior was in love with Byrne. Prior moved on from his Panda Bear to Byrne.

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    1. His "panda bear"? Pandas can be quite vicious though, can't they?

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    2. 08.31 - what is Prior's Panda Bear?

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  15. An interesting photo, MJB is laughing and leaning towards DM who looks pleasantly surprised and is leaning towards MJB. I wonder where MJB left hand is and what it is doing.

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  16. You are obsessed with Michael J, Pat Buckley. Another blog with him and the same repetitive photos tells us all we need to know.

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    1. Hi Brendan and Stephen.

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    2. You are obsessed by the two people you keep saying Hi to @08.45. Did they knock you back? Immature and an idiot who can't move on.

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    3. Hi Brendan and Stephen @ 08:54.

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    4. 08:59 Low hack!

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  17. Wilson's past history of reporting heterosexual seminarians to Mullaney and Collins will be his downfall. Wilson's victims will retaliate by peacefull means of making sure everyone knows the harm you did. Stephen we know about your agreement with Kenny Hall and Emyln.

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  18. Armagh obsessed stalker of Wilson alert

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  19. Archbishop Martin looks exhausted in the photograph above. He has been through hell. A good man, I hope an abundance of care has been put in place to support and love him to good health. If anybody deserves it, he does.

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    1. I like Diarmuid. But there are questions............

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  20. “... BRING DOWN THE HIERARCHY AND CLERGY.”

    Unfortunately, Ferns, Ryan, and Murphy didn’t manage to do that, Bp Pat, so I don’t hold out much hope for Byrne.

    Also, in the scheme of things, Byrne probably knocked-back Marsden.

    PS: How do you pronounce Byrne? Is it the same as Byron or Bryan?

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    1. 0943 It's pronounced 'burn' as in 'crash and ...'

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    2. "... Byrne probably knocked-back Marsden."

      The latter probably has a tiny dick.

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    3. How does that comment address our debate?

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    4. 09:43 & 10:12 - May God forgive you for casting such heinous aspersions on Fr Marsden who was the only hope for genuine orthodox seminarians in Maynooth. All you little lying sexual deviants need to be turned out on your ear.

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    5. It explains a lot, Bp Pat.

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    6. Dear Irish Bishops, do you see the fallacious filth being written by your "seminarians"? You see, hear but do nothing. As John Waters said, you fear one line of criticism in the Irish Times more than God and his Laws.

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    7. Byrne as in ‘burn in Hell’; or ‘that vindaloo will burn the hole outa ye in the morning’. Do you get it now?

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    8. Anonymous at 18:18

      HAH! HAH! HAH! got it fabulous answer, Cheers!

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  21. DIARMUID MARTIN

    Dear Bishop Pat. I sent you a post yesterday about The Irish Archbishop, Dermot Martin in Dublin. You did not publish. I am now in touch with another major newspaper. They want my knowledge. I was in the Scots College, Rome in the mid 1980's. He was resident in the Irish College, Rome. He connections with Derry seminarians.Time to tell that truth.

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    1. I got your post.

      Have we any evidence or proof?

      I've also shared it with a journalist.

      Call me on 07488 374364 withholding your number if you wish.

      Pat

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  22. NOT SEEING COMMENTS?

    Under the last comment you see press LOAD MORE

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    1. I think many of yesterday’s comments thought Fr Marsden represented the quintessential 'fake hetero homophobe' and, therefore, an unreliable source of reference.

      Today’s comments on his tiny penis may account for his psychosis.

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    2. Filthbag @ 14:02. Fake seminarian/priest product of Gaynooth.

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  23. Pat, I'm a freelance journalist researching a story on Deacon Michael Byrne. Surveillance carried out has located the man staying in a parish owned property in Holy Trinity Parish Donaghmede where the parish priest is a cloe friend. I have sought information about whether this arrangement has been approved by Archbishop Martin but no response. There is a story here involving a gay cabal.

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    1. Can you call me.

      UK 07488 374 364

      Eire 0044 7488 374 364

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    2. Is Diarmuid Martin housing Gorgeous in a presbytery?

      Why?

      What is their plan?

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    3. If it’s his private apartment in Dublin 9 it’s not Diocesan business.

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    4. 12.15: Pat - please be aware that M. Byrne is staing with in his family home which happens to be in the Donaghmede area. There is no free or available Diocesan property in said Parish. That I k ow. It would be very unfair, unjust and totally unacceptable to disturb his family. Very, very wrong and sickening if that happens. The very use of the word "surveillance" by commenter at 12.01 has very sinister undertones. This moment I am heading to Coolock Garda station to report this comment and harrassment. Your blog today is gutter trailertrash.

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    5. For better or for worse Deacon Byrne is a person with a public PERSONA as a result of strange goings on in Maynooth.

      The Archdiocese of Dublin has failed to clarify his current and future place in the Church.

      This is a genuine matter of public interest.

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    6. 14.58: Buckkey, you piece of trash. Just mind your own business, you vicious Queenie Bitch. Good for nothing.

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  24. Father Marsden:

    1. He may well be right that there is an inordinate dominance of homosexual culture and behaviour in seminaries. And I think that is what + Pat is believing. And that if the RC Church (rightly or wrongly) has as its model that seminarians and priests should be celibate, then it is not unreasonable to expect that celibacy and chastity are required. If people do not wish to be so, then they should have the courage of their convictions and go elsewhere. It is a matter of honesty and integrity.

    2. However, it appears that although Fr. Marsden may have spoken some truth about 1., he seems to have gone overboard on the business of homosexuality, not just practice but also orientation, to the extent that he became singly and unhealthy focuses on this aspect of a seminarians life. He probably wrapped it up in the envelope of orthodoxy, but I think he really sees homosexuality as more of a problem for a seminarian than it is in reality, and characterises it as the one defining aspect of a seminarians life and suitability, whereas most seminary directors would take a much wiser, wider and balanced view of the suitability of a seminarian. Even to the extent of recognising the in growth there is often failure, but from that comes learning and development. Fr Marsden seems to have been rather Talibaneque in his practice.

    3. What is spooky and unhealthy is that he had privileged access to seminarians reports and psychological evaluations, and was able to get seminarians to open up to him. In doing so they were putting themselves in to an unsafe space, and the stuff they revealed about themselves could be moulded to suit Fr. Marsden's world view. And then acted upon. Often to the detriment of the seminarian. That is unhealthy, and also somewhat abusive of the seminarian.

    4. Father Marsden has been judged by 2 seminaries to be unsuitable to be around and directing and evaluating seminarians. Let us hope he moves on to other things where he has not so much influence and his rather distorted views on a number of things are not allowed free reign. Perhaps he needs some help himself, because an obsession such as he has with other people's sexuality is indicative of his own lack of integration and acceptance of who he is himself. People banging on about sexuality, especially homosexuality, usually have a problem with it themselves.

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    1. Servingblogger, hetero guys only "bang on" about homosexuality when it is being constantly shoved in their faces as has happened in Maynooth and seminaries throughout the world. Just read 'Goodbye Good Men' by Michael Rose. And what about the situation in Chile where seminarians were all brainwashed into thinking they were "repressed homosexuals"? You see homosexuals think that everyone else is gay;that's the problem and that's why they should not hold positions of authority in seminaries.

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    2. Bp Pat also tends to "see homosexuality as more of a problem for a seminarian than it is in reality." I wish he would concentrate more on trying to change Church teaching on the mo's.

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    3. 12:40
      "You see homosexuals think that everyone else is gay;that's the problem and that's why they should not hold positions of authority in seminaries."

      How many homosexual people did you interview to reach such a conclusion?

      Your premise is clearly ludicrous on many levels, not least that of being a generalisation.

      Your conclusion is therefore false.

      Myopia, anger, lack of research, clouded judgement, limited intelligence, prejudice and hatred are not grounds for reaching a safe conclusion in your analysis of this issue.

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    4. You or any other gang of subverts will change God's laws 15:55.

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    5. 17:31, my conclusion is that of the RCC. Read the documents yourself you dunce.

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    6. 1240: You prove my point ! You are so obsessed with homosexuals that you can't just ignore them and get on with your life. Probably means that quietly and secretly you might be one yourself. Unresolved issues about sexuality in your life ? Denial ? Go see Fr. David Marsden. He will sort you out !

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    7. Homosexuals are obsessed with themselves and only themselves.

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    8. 18:35 Nowhere in the church’s 2000-year history has your fallacy found its depraved way into dogma or doctrine.
      Your homophobia is telling - very likely you are in denial, as they who shout loudest like KOB and French priest Tony Anatrella.

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    9. @20:42

      Do we have that on the best authority?

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  25. The Truth will set Gorgeous free even if the truth is revolting.

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  26. Byrne and Horny Andy lol. Byrne's room at night was like a revolving door room. Strange musical knocks at his bedroom door at all hours of the night. Each of his night calls has a specific tune/knock.

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  27. Considering how many kittys came out to play yesterday, I can see why Viagano went into hiding after blowing the whistle on the Maynooth Cabal's hero and leader: Pope Francis

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    1. Vigano knew what he was dealing with. The gay cabal are the most dangerous, vicious and duplicitous group on this planet and have committed actual murder in order to conceal their network from the public eye. Just read Fr Oko's thesis on them but in order to see how lethal they are.

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    2. Vigano's 'testimony' has been shown up for what it is: the unreliable settling of scores of a disgruntled and frustrated wannabe cardinal.

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    3. Vigano has more integrity in his little finger than you will ever have 17:33.

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    4. Dear 14.43, if Oko’s your source you may go back to Square One.

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    5. To: 19:02.
      Perhaps you haven't heard that Vigano's brother, a priest, Don Lorenzo, has claimed that Vigano didn't tell the truth when he tried to prevent his transfer from Rome by pleading that he had to remain to look after his brother, who had health issues.

      http://www.cinquantamila.it/storyTellerArticolo.php?storyId=0000002232753

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  28. I am getting out of this sodomite ridden church which is lead by an Argentinian gangster who supported that pervert paedophile Fr Grassi to the last when Archbishop of Buenos Aires.

    The Catholic Church is heading into a dark night which is set to last decades. The satanic gay cabal are in full control.

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    1. Bye Bye. Let us know when you find the church of the spotlessly clean.

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    2. @13:26; The problem is it's becoming the church of the filthy and rotten! It's so so bad at this stage 'cowboys' posting on this blog are unable to recognise it! For all of the theologically rabbitting on that's goes on in Maynooth their are posters to this blog who don't know their A,B,Cs when it comes to the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Its appalling stuff and it's an infestation of the demonic into the Church. There's no 'old church and new church'! Gobshites!

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    3. @13:26;14:05; Caca or sin is supposed to be confessed in the Sacrament of Penance or Reconciliation or Confession, call the Sacrament what you like. Knowledge of the caca of other people is not supposed to be bandied about in the public domain. That's kindergarten stuff.

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  29. Not one single piece of fact or evidence produced again today. Too many ex Maynooth Seminarians commentung with axes to grind and the usual bitchy gossip that probably got them the shoe out the door in the first place. It one piece of evidence - even Magna Carta is getting exasperated with it all. That unknown journalist post is a total fake also, you can see through it for miles.

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  30. Pat two years ago Sean Jones and Mark Moriarty hosted a secret gay sex new year's eve part in Tralee. An apartment was rented out. in attendance was Byrne, Jones, Moriarty and Horny Andy. God only knows if Jones wore his famous jock strap. Look more into this famous gathering in Kerry.

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  31. The Tralee incidnet two years ago. Byrne had a thing for small obese men with love handles. Jones and Moriarty fitted Byrne's brief obsessions.

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  32. Here we go again. The usual gossip and inuendo. The lies will be posted in the comments section. I wonder if anyone will be reported dead by the end of the day?

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  33. Pat which incident is worse the Sauna Babylonia visit or the Tralee apartment gay party.

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  34. That immature fuc*wit that keeps saying Hi Stephen and Brendan to people asking genuine questions is a clearly a Maynooth reject. Probably the same imbecile talking non stop about Collins, Prior etc. Always making claims but nothing to back it up. I think he offered us photos a while back which someone predicted rightly would never materalise. Sounds like the same knobhead reject coming up now with fantasies of parties in Kerry. We are not here to read child stories or jackanory but hear to read about facts and evidence. Pat as usual persists in this immaturity of continually publishing this hi brendan/Stephen shite. You want people to take your blog seriously then act your age and grow up ffs.

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  35. hello Stephen and Brendan

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  36. I think +Pat should come to Dublin with a camera phone and do an expose on this. He could call to the alleged presbyteries and see if Gorgeous is present. A Bray #2 maybe ?

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    1. Gorgeous should be in the tabernacle as he thinks he is the real presence. He could use the sanctuary lamp as his own red light District.

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      Disgraceful comment, sacrilegious.

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  37. Stephanie Wilson and Emyln. tut tut we know about what happened in Soho.

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    1. We don't. Tell aunty Pat.

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    2. Yes please! Do tell annon@15.53! We are dying to find out. I've never been to Soho before. Is it a place of pilgrimage.... like Lourdes?

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    3. No, you're getting confused with the 'dilly.

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  38. The whole world knows that Michael is openly gay, but as far as I know there is no evidence of any wrongdoing on his part. Fr Marsden is on a crusade against gays as such, not against abusers.

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    1. Bp Pat is wasting his time and energy trying the control the sex lives of seminarians... and former seminarians. Fr David "Tiny Tim" Marsden is one thing, but put big Mick Lomansey in the mix and celibacy flies straight out the window.

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    2. ... especially if Lomansey turned up drunk and unshaven the seminarians just automatically dropped their kacks. Who wouldn't?

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  39. BDSM Rituals and a broken wrist in Maynooth.

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  40. The good people of Kerry paid for Moriarty's broken wrist. Horney Andy broke it when Moriarty was lying but naked in the Cana room. Drunken ritual led by Byrne.

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    1. It's now known as the Caca room.

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  41. A private citizen of the State is under discussion here. A private citizen is entitled to his or her constitutional rights. He or she may wish to have same vindicated in the Courts.

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    1. Free State courts have no jurisdiction in loyal Larne #nosurrender

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    2. They did say your lot haven’t gone away. Northern Ireland will be united with Éire as soon as the British leave the EU. We will recover the lost counties and the orange prods can swim back to Shitland I mean Scotland.

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  42. So a Maynooth deacon can have a gay lifestyle with the full knowledge of his bishop, seminary council and spiritual director yet seminarians are kicked out for kneeling at Mass there. I cannot wait for Maynooth to close. Has it gone in 50 years from being the world's biggest seminary to its smallest? If so, I am very, very glad.

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    1. 16:35
      Well at least the axe you are grinding has been identified.

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    2. Gaynooth is dead 17:37. Dead as a dodo. The likes of you have killed it.

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    3. Poor old Maynooth. RIP. When it was good it was very, very good but when it was bad it was very, very bad.

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    4. Yes indeed, 18:39. The remark of Napoleon about Pius VII that he would be Pius the Last proved to be premature. Like yours.

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  43. Pat, as a layperson can I ask (whether one believes canon law or not), what is the canonical penalty for openly opposing the teaching of all the recent popes regarding not receiving gay men into seminaries. I'm thinking of all the archbishops, priests, seminarian managers, vocation directors etc who have been working openly against the popes' teaching - not to mention all the promotion of the same people through clerical ranks. Thanks

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    1. I don't think that such opposition is classed as a canonical crime.

      A clericic can come under penalty for heresy and apostasy.

      If challenged and they persist they can be suspended from ministry.

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    2. Pat, how can it not be a canonical crime. What if every time the pope spoke of celibacy, an archbishop said rubbish and to his priests do what you want. Or he ordained women against the pope s teaching. Magna, may I ask you to apply your analytical sense to this question please?

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    3. Sorry Pat, I meant to say thanks for your reply also at 16.57

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  44. Is it true that the Irish College has no first years?

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    1. Archdiocese of Dublin had 0 candidates this year to send to the Irish College. So in that regard yes it’s true.

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    2. They've sent them to the massage parlours in Dublin 1 instead.

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  45. There are 2 documents urging that gays be excluded from seminaries, one in the time of John XXIII and one in the time of Benedict XVI; both were dead letters on the day of their publication, like John XXIII's document (an Encyclical no less) urging the restoration of Latin. Kinsey found that 50% of men report arousal by other men and 37% of men report arousal to the point of orgasm. So weeding out gays is rather tricky! A real effort to weed out gay saminarians would perhaps weed out all of them!

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  46. The Pope has not said gay men are barred from priesthood or seminary. All men in the priesthood are to be celibate. Straight or gay.

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    1. I'm afraid he has: his endorsement of a reaffirmation of Pope Benedict's 2005 ban on admitting gay candidates to seminary.

      The reaffirmation is stated in a document titled 'The Gift of the Priestly Vocation', published in 2016.

      The document rules out 'those with deep-seated homosexual tendecies. 'Exclusively gay men', in other words.

      But note, not bisexual men.

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    2. 17:50, sorry to have to disabuse you of your illusory notion, but the Pope and official Vatican documents have banned gays from entering seminaries. Pope Francis said that even if there is as much as a doubt that homosexuals must not be allowed enter formation.

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    3. MC, the Vatican's definition includes bisexuals as homosexual orientation is part of the bisexual orientation. The Church teaches that any other orientation apart from the God given heterosexual orientation is disordered.

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    4. Who speaks for God when they said “God given heterosexual” - did you encounter God and have a debate with him or her to get this definitive answer? If we’re all born in God’s image and likeness then how do you square that? God don’t make caca. It’s the institution that makes up the rules and says that’s God’s word. Do you honestly believe the RCC can proclaim God’s word with any credibility? Does God talk to them about the systemic abuse enabling and cover up? They have little to say about that and what God said in that regard.

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    5. 19:08, where in the document I referred does it explicitly state what you said about bisexuality?

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    6. Homosexuality comes from satan. Like many other perversions.

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    7. 20:45 I suspect you agreed with the Italian priest who said Satan made him have sex with a minor in his car? Excuses excuses. Take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming sky fairies. I suppose alcoholics find Satan at the end of the glass and junkies find Satan in the tip of a hypodermic needle?

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    8. 20:45, your propostion is not only untheological, but unbiblical.

      Satan, as a created entity, cannot himself create ex nihilo ('from nothing', as God can), but can only imitate.

      Homosexuality, like bisexuality and heterosexuality, is intrinsic to human nature.

      It is how we express these sexualities that is either good or sinful

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    9. 18;39; 18:44; 19:08; 19:50. The misinterpretation you espouse has been refuted and corrected by James Alison who employs a different hermeneutic to provide a much more nuanced exposé of what Francis has said.

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    10. Thank you Magna at 21:55 a reasoned and intellectual response to that person.

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    11. Homosexuality is a demon. I have witnessed people being delivered from this demon. God did not create anyone to be homosexual. Homosexual demons can either attach pre or post natally.

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  47. Fr. Marsden is a principled alpha male much like Mike Pence.
    Anyone complaining about him is a low testosterone soy boy.

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    1. Argumentum ad hominem, 18:20. An elementary logical fallacy. Try again.

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  48. The line about thinking he owned the presbytery - no one thinks they own the house attached to the Pro Cathedral. Lots of people go in and out of that house. It’s a historic building. Why post a picture and suggest someone thinks or acts like they own it? The house is held in trust for the people of God in Dublin by the RCC.

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  49. Pat I ask you as a fellow Christian to delete this blog and let this young man get on with his life. Jesus fell three times on the road to Calvary. If you continue your personal fight against this young man then you might be deemed as bad as those who crucified Christ.

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    1. Hi Brendan. You full after the refectory ?

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    2. Actually, no.
      Granted, a Covert Narcissist such as Gorgeous thinks himself as God Almighty, but disappointing that you, a Christian I assume, would a human to God Almighty, as Jesus Christ is.
      Very silly indeed.

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    3. 19:02 Low commentator! You miss the Maynooth meals? Not feeding you at home?

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  50. Why are the so many gays in the priesthood?

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  51. The god of Maynooth is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob it is the god of homosexual sex. That is the god that is worshipped in that heathens den.

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    1. @19:22: 'Ecce Homo'. Enough said!

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    2. What a load of rubbish- were you ever in Maynooth?

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    3. Yes I was in Maynooth for a day a couple of years ago and I tell you this now the place was crawling with homosexuals. Women can pick up on these things.

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    4. 19:22 Give it to them, sister!

      19:54 Ecce homo are words directed at Jesus in John's Gospel.

      20:26 Are you one of these Scottish extreme traddies?

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  52. The Dominicans are doing well with young vocations.

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    1. Oh, right !? Oddballs who walk around in their ridiculous looking habits ? That's just the kind of priest / religious we need in the Church, taking us back to the 13th century. Get real !

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    2. We need to go back to basics. The basic message of Christ Jesus.

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    3. Yes, and their homosexual atmosphere is flourishing too. Some of the stories I hear from the English Province would make your hair stand on end.

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    4. The English vice again.

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    5. Yes, 19.25. Probably thanks in no small measure to their novice master who must be a charismatic, gregarious, intelligent, spiritual and good-looking man to form them all the right way.

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    6. The Dominicans have done pretty well for 800 years despite their ridiculous habits though the rot set in around 1962.

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  53. Pat

    Why do you keep doing this to Michael?
    He is a young man who has suffered your wrath for many years now. He has been accused of so much but what has turned out to be true?
    It may be hard for some people to accept but he is a victim too. Marsden used his position of power to use Michael’s openness and good will against him. Michael was open about his sexuality yet nothing indicates that he had an active lifestyle. Identifying as gay and being open about it in formation would indicate more maturity than he is given credit for.
    All these anonymous accusations yet not one person has stepped forward to put their name to it. Why??
    I think Michael has integrity and the people who know him personally know the type of good man he is. Let him move on with his life and leave him alone. He left the priesthood...what more do you want from him?

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  54. Re @18:53 I agree that Michael Byrne is not public enemy No. 1. Nevertheless as a Deacon he is in Major Orders and has neither sought nor received a dispensation from his promises. Therefore he is a public representation of the clergy and so attracts our attention. In that capacity he is a public scandal because he blatantly does not practice what he preaches, and moreover embodies a lifestyle which is served by rather serving the people of God. I entirely agree with his views as purportedly expressed to Fr David Marsden, but I am not a cleric representing my Ordinary. It doesn’t seem to me that anybody got caught up in Michael’s high jinks who wasn’t keen, and frankly they are neither criminal nor any big deal apart from the screaming fact that these were seminarians sworn to a very different life.

    Nor does Father Marsden come out of this with any credibility, even though he precisely expresses official Catholic teaching. These views outside a certain circle are frankly sociopathic and as deranged and morally unacceptable as say notions of racial superiority.

    What we might infer then is that both Fr Marsden and Deacon Byrne are highly unsuitable for the clerical state. Given two such different approaches to the same problem of an endemically dysfunctional homosexual priesthood, we might conclude that the very institution is unfit for purpose and has to be replaced by new models.

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    1. 20:04 the only solution for the Catholic priesthood is a complete purging of gays from seminaries, orders, priesthood and the episcopate. Homosexuals know that they should not be there and nobody forced them to be there. Gays hinder hetero men from applying for the priesthood in many ways, both indirectly and directly. Gays also have an innate impediment when it comes to preaching the truth which is the real reason for all the current compromises in the Church with the world. Fr Marsden was right in what he did. God bless him.

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    2. 20.36 Amen, sister. Sing it. Are you the Scottish traddie and are you at it again?

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  55. Some beautiful photographs of the Meath Diocesan Annual Pilgrimage to Lourdes on the Meath diocese facebook page. One doesn't have to be a friend of the diocese to view the beautiful photographs of the new bishop and the former bishop leading the pilgrims. They are accompianied by the new holy bishop's new secretary. Another priest - with a beard - has produced some lovely videos for the page.

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  56. 20:04

    It also needs to be pointed out that Fr. David Marsden in his role as a psychologist has broken the equivalent of the seal of confession which further adds to his unsuitability and questhonalblity

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    1. No, he hasn't. He hasn't named any students who availed of vocational growth counselling. It is "internal forum" alright, but as with spiritual direction, seminarians sign a form authorising the director or counsellor to tell the relevant people if the student indicates that they or a child is in danger. This, of course, wouldn't be grounds for Fr. Marsden to name names of seminarians - I'm just pointing out that this is not equivalent to the seal of the confessional, and seminarians sign to say they understand that.

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  57. What is the story about a dean of Maynooth and a delayed ordination? It's been referred to on here recently.

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  58. On June 15 & 16 2017, The Irish Times, mentioned Fr Marsden. It also referred to him on December 15 2016, and, again on August 2 and August 3 and on August 5 2016 etc
    Query: Why is The Irish Times not referring to the most recent story?

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  59. Meath needs to update its website, according to it Dermot Farrell is the PP of Dunboyne and Robert McGivney is in Mullingar

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  60. Is there any chance we could all calm down? Maynooth is NOT like the last days of Rome. When I was there (within the last decade) the guys were sincere and trying their best. At most, best friends kissed after a few drinks and there was a bit of mutual masturbation but nothing heavier than that. All part of growing up and it's made me a better, more merciful priest. Sorry to simultaneously disappoint and offend. Life is messy.

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    1. Yes all very well, but that doesn't stop priests dictating to their flocks on their immoral behaviour,and using sex ae a stick to beat people with, resulting in lives been ruined, how many abusers have been unleashed across ireland from maynooth , that place has alot to answer for.

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    2. I can't believe that you consider 'a bit of mutual masturbation' in Maynooth seminary as such moral lightweight.

      There mustn't be any toleration of such behaviour, and no defence of it.

      Sin (any sin) is not an end in itself, but the beginning of deeper, personal moral degeneration.

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    3. Get out of the priesthood now you fraud.

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  61. Who is in charge of the Pro Cathedral now? Does the new honcho have a pet like Damien and Gorgeous? Damien was sent packing. I wonder does the current incumbent have a pet and is he as good as Gorgeous? Pyjama Parties ?

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