PEOPLE ARE UNDER PRESSURE TO ATTEND THE DENNIHAN ORDINATION TODAY.
THE BLOG HAS LEARNED THAT QUITE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN PUT UNDER PRESSURE AND TOLD THAT IF THEY DO NOT ATTEND TODAY'S ORDINATION IN MULLINGAR IT WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR THEIR CAREERS.
I have heard no evidence that Dennihan himself has played any part in this pressure.
But bishops and senior clergy, in various dioceses, have been told that failure to attend today's bash in Meath will be looked on very poorly by Holy Mother Church.
This is particularly true in institutions and organizations run by the Church itself.
So there will be a number of people there basically against their wishes.
They would not be there if they were free not to be there.
I cannot identify these people or where they work because they fear some type of retaliation for non-attendance.
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WASHINGTON, D.C., August 30, 2018 (LifeSiteNews) – Pope Francis has directed Cardinal Donald Wuerl to leave the United States “before being arrested” by authorities, Church Militant’s Michael Voris reported this evening.
The Washington, D.C. cardinal – successor to disgraced ex-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick – and former bishop of Pittsburgh, where a recentgrand jury report says he helped shuffle around and cover for sex abuser priests, is in hiding while “final plans for sneaking him out of the country are executed,” Voris reported.
According to Voris, who says he received this information from reliable sources, the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) may open up a RICO case against the Catholic Church. RICO, the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, is a 1970 anti-organized crime, anti-racketeering law.
Because Wuerl would be a prime target of such a case, according to Voris, Pope Francis wants him out of the country lest he reveal “all he knows” because any potential DOJ case would lead to the Vatican.
“They are trying to sneak him out of the nation under Vatican diplomatic secrecy,” said Voris, noting Wuerl has backed out of a number of public events after the Pennsylvania news broke, and speculating he may be hiding at a hotel in the nation’s capital. Voris said priests of the archdiocese received a letter from Wuerl saying he was looking forward to seeing them during Labor Day weekend.
This potential action from the federal government, which would be huge if undertaken, is due to the clergy sexual abuse crisis that has rocked the U.S. church with the release of the Pennsylvania grand jury report that exposed decades of clerical sex abuse and church cover-up. Also adding to the scandal is the recent detailed testimony of Archbishop Carlo Viganò, who says that Pope Francis and a number of high-ranking cardinals, bishops, and priests knew about McCarrick’s predation yet still placed him in positions of influence and allowed him access to seminarians. Viganò said in his testimony that Wuerl “lies shamelessly” in denying that he was aware of McCarrick’s abuse.
Rumors about Wuerl’s whereabouts have been flying in D.C. Catholic circles, with some speculating he may already be in Rome and others also mentioning Wuerl’s alleged upcoming meeting with priests.
Catholic author George Neumayr and a Washington Post journalist both showed up to an upscale Northwest D.C. house owned by the Archdiocese of Washington to try to find out if it is where McCarrick is. Neumayr filmed his confrontations with at least one diocesan employee outside and even managed to walk around the first floor of the house. The Washington Post reporter said her editors received a call complaining about her presence.
As of August 30 at 5:40 p.m. EST, there was no activity outside that house and its lights were off.
PAT SAYS:
It now appears that that the Vatican and Pope Francis are prepared to do another Cardinal Law job.
The plan seems to take Wuerl out of the USA using some diplomatic channel and place him in the Vatican.
So much for Francis' promising action against bishops who covered up abuse.
Could you please check the proper spelling of people's names before writing about them on this blog. His name is Tom Deenihan.......not " Dennihan". It looks terrible when the author fails to get something basic like a person's name correct.
ReplyDelete@23.48 irrelevant and off topic.
DeleteVERY relevant .. when you are casting the first stone.
DeleteNope, irrlevant. Commentators should reply to the substance of points not the spelling of them. This is not a school and you are not marking an essay.
DeleteEamonn Martin has a big wardrobe.
ReplyDelete23.52: How banal and utterly inane a comment! Better a big wardrobe than a BIG, vulgar, s**t mouth....Grow up you class act fool.
DeleteThe Nigerian Nuncio is well aware why nothing should happen at Mullingar Cathedral at 3.00pm .
ReplyDeleteHe carries himself with that strange gate since those days on that beach. He has always carried the guilt.
ReplyDelete"... gait ..."
DeleteThey usually call it "mincing."
DeleteThat is Brady.
ReplyDeleteBishop Pat, With regard to the Westminster/Beda comments yesterday: surely the focus should be on Fr.Rod Strange who was the Beda Rector at the time of the alleged serious incident. If lt is the case that the now ordainec seminarian, Tom M., gained injury including a broken nose, as a result of his own uninvited sexual action towards his Australian fellow student in formation (!), would not the then Rector, Fr Strange, have had the serious obligatiom to sustain the proper expectations of preparatiom and procedure towards priestly ordination? Fr.M now deserves prayers for his ministry. However, the Australian ex-seminarian may be in need of prayerful support following the potentially ruinous and unexpected experience he allegedly endured.
ReplyDeleteWho is this Tom M?
DeleteI remember this guy from the comment @ 01.27 when I was at the Beda and from the assault described. He was too young to be in the Beda because at that time it was only older men and late vocations attending there. Many couldn't believe that Nichols allowed him to continue after the assualt and thought at the time he might have 'dirt' on Senior Westminster clergy. He was a well known drunk then, glass of booze of any description always in his hand. When drunk he was a nasty vindictive gossip and always commenting on clergy who were gay and in gay relationships. A total unsuitable candidate for Ordination and many wondered why Nichols allowed him to continue - did he know too many secrets??
DeleteTom Montgomery
DeleteAfter Montgomery was assaulted in the Beda for an 'incident' with an Australian Sem he got a second chance from Nichols. He later went on after that to have a drink fuelled rant in Lourdes above all places. He accused Stuart Wilson a senior Westminster Priest and the then Auxiliary Alan Hopes of being 'too friendly'. He accused other senior Westminster Clergy of having liaisons and this was all reported to the people concerned by others who were present and Nichols gave him yet another chance. Why?? Does this warrant Ordination to the Priesthood? What does it say for Vincent Nichols judgement?
DeleteWhen I was in the English College and Tom happened to visit it was very much a case of, "Lock up the drinks cabinet".
DeleteFr Montgomery's Twitter posts are mainly about alcohol.
DeleteFr Montgomery was posted to Enfield but didn't last very long there. He hated the other curate. He's now in Wewlyn and has loads to say about his PP there, Fr Norbert, especially when he's sloshed. Such a vindictive tongue. Perhaps it's a bad habit that he picked up from his ex Anglican days.
Delete@18.13 Just looked at the Twitter account, yes booze features highly closely followed by food. Fr Montgomery looks pissed in some of the pictures. A disgrace.
DeleteWhen I was at the Beda (this is not a joke) they got Montgomery to manage the student bar lol. He managed it all right - managed to drink it dry. There were so many warning bells ringing and still they let him through. Heads should role and Cardinal Nichols really needs to answer questions over what's turning out to be a scandal. Is he knowingly ordaining men who are clearly not fit to be in a seminary.
DeleteAs I have blogged twice before, now for a third time: When you consider the dynamics of The College Of Bishops in the Roman Catholic Church, think Suetonius , The Lives of The Caesars.
ReplyDeleteThis is how 3.00pm takes place today, the knowledge they have of one another, their sexual deviance and disfunction and their common phyco-sexual propensities.
Every profession is constructed to keep those who do not profess out....The Roman Bishops are particularly pernicious in how they stay together and how they exclude all others.
They most likely cannot believe themselves that this man comes to their club. The key to all of this is: who promoted this man?
Mulvihill has been up late on the sauce again no doubt talking crap as usual. The blog has been boring so enter Bill to try and spice it up with his garbage. Him and Buckley are just trash. Where is Bill now? He was in France and then made a miraculous appearance at a hotel in Dublin to confront a Cardinal at WMOF. Is he now back in Louth? Will he make a miraculous appearance again, who will witness this miracle? We could turn the place into a grotto.
ReplyDeleteBill will be making a guest appearance at the Holy Stone of Clonrichert
Delete07.54: Garbage isn't the word. The man, Mulvihill is drunk on his stupidity, but more dangerously, totally dead spiritually and morally impaired with his vindictiveness, jealousy, anger issues, psychosexual confusions, sexual unfulfilment. It's evident in his comments but ask his (once) parishioners and they'll attest to his propensity for hate-filled, angry moods. Let he who has no stain of sin/malice/dysfunction throw the first stone! Come on Billy boy, listen carefully to Jesus in today's gospel before you begin stoning yourself! A quarry wouldn't have enough stones!
ReplyDelete7.54
ReplyDeleteThanks for the belly laugh, if you put up the grotto, I shall arrive and officially open it ?
8.37
ReplyDeleteYou clearly don't understand my comment.
08.57: And you, Bill, somehow don't understand your own crappy comments all morning. What a waste of a life.. .get over your mood swings.
DeleteI suspect that the prospect of Wuerl fleeing to Rome and the Vatican is a little far fetched. I imagine he is away for a long weekend somewhere, and will re-emerge in his diocese. Even if he did flee, and the US authorities were determined to bring him to trial, there are mechanisms for extradition even with the Vatican; and in this era of Trump, I'm sure there are sanctions that could be applied quite effectively against the Vatican and the RC Church !
ReplyDeleteWhat is more likely is the RICO investigation, or something along those lines, by the American authorities / DOJ. Such is the scope of the corruption, coverup and organised criminality uncovered by the Pennsylvania Grand July report, and other misbehaviour and criminality by the Church, particularly by its leadership, in respect of abuse of the young and the vulnerable, I think that there is a distinct possibility of some sort of deeper investigation and action by the authorities in the US either at State or Federal level. It would not be beyond the imagination to see the likes of Wuerl etc doing the 'perp walk' and ending up being charged, tried and imprisoned. The US authorities can be ruthless in these matters when they decide to act.
What I have found most upsetting about all that is being reported in these days, aside from the evident and deep hurt that has been done to the young and the vulnerable, is equally as much the crimes of abusing individuals which are reprehensible and repulsive, and also and very importantly the callous and calculating actions of the leadership of the Church, the Bishops and their Vicars General, who have connived in this abuse in some respect by ignoring it, covering it up, moving people around, having knowledge but allowing the needs of the moment and the reputations of themselves, the Diocese, the Church etc. to come first in any calculation. There seems to have been an ingrained culture of protecting self first, rather than doing what was demanded by justice and by the Gospel - to do the right thing. It is clear that this way of acting was not just on behalf of one or two bishops, but appears to have been a modus operandi that extends throughout the Church. It is this malaise that is so upsetting, knowing that I and others have been serving and supporting a Church that is so rotten at its core. Why should I continue to support this Church until such time as it is cleared of this sinful rottenness and corruption ?
How can we protect seminarians? Since seminarians are men, the best way to protect them is to keep homosexual predators out of seminaries and out of positions of authority over those seminaries and the seminarians.
ReplyDeleteFO you old poof.
DeleteOf course, but they are very much in charge now (90% in the Vatican is one estimate by one who lives there). Shifting them will take decades unless we have a Sodom-like divine intervention.
DeleteRod Strange was wasted stuck at the Beda all those years. His own integrity and intellectual qualities had ruled him out for further preferment - just look at the comparison between him and his own Ordinary at Shrewsbury. Meanwhile back at Westminster, there are very rich fields to be mined there - if you catch my drift: all the “usual stuff” in rich abundance. I agree with an earlier comment that many ex Anglicans are playing the same games now they had before: theirs is its own internal culture once described as “gin, lace and back-biting”, though some of those who didn’t cross over are decent and honest, which is perhaps why they didn’t cross over the toxic waters of the Tiber. The biggest joke was when Nichols, in order to secure his red hat, kicked out the LGBT group from Soho and handed the church to the Ordinariate! But don’t let’s dump all the blame on the ex Anglicans. There has long been an alcohol fuelled clerical queens culture enabled by the sainted Basil. On the other hand, no gays = no priests, so take your pick!
ReplyDeleteVery good analysis @09.43. Probably accounts for why a group of Westminster clergy Queens trip off to gay Soho for lunch in their clerical garb after the Chrism Mass each year. It's not usually on Holy Thursday so it's always drink fuelled. Cormac and Vincent are fully aware of what goes on. No gays = no priests!! Let's turn a blind eye. Some of those Westminster Queens are vicious so it's better not to cross them.
DeleteBill, you're back!
ReplyDeleteHave you contacted the lady from the other day, who wishes to date you? Will you pursue her desire to date (and do more) with you?
I don’t think they would get away with trying to do a Bernard Law again, Bp Pat. Look at Pell, he tried and failed.
ReplyDeleteIt might depend on what Wuerl has done - and how much he knows about others - even in the Vatican?
DeleteWuerl is in hiding, whereabouts unknown.
DeleteUncle Ted McCarrick, the special protegé of Pope Francis, celebrating his 50th anniversary of ordination: "He always tried to get to know each of his seminarians personally before he ordained them." Yikes!
DeleteWill Dr Dick Given be at the ordination?
ReplyDeleteIs that Dennihans GP?
Delete... or his Grindr profile name? I Wonder.
DeletePlenty of Fr Dick Givens there .
DeleteWhat about Fr Ben Dover and Fr Ivor Biggun? Did they show up?
DeleteDid Roger the altar boy make an appearance?
Delete10 57: What preoccupations you have Pat that you even want to know the name of Fr. Deenihan's doctor! The gospel today advises against the shallow judgments we make about people. It's clean hearts God wants. Can you come before the Lord faultless? Most definitely not. A cursory glance at your frivolous and superfluous concerns re: people's looks, backgrounds etc....demonstrate your own impoverished inner spirit.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.mcnmedia.tv/camera/cathedral-of-christ-the-king-mullingar/
ReplyDeleteThat's the link to the Cathedral for Bishop elect Tom Deenihan
tuning in now and they are rehearsing with the new bishop
DeletePat Mullaney has failed to provide any support structures for Maynooth Survivors.
ReplyDeleteSorry, but who is Pat Mullaney?
DeleteThe main article states: .... But bishops and senior clergy, in various dioceses, have been told that failure to attend today's bash in Meath [Mullingar] will be looked on very poorly by Holy Mother Church. IT WOULD NOT BE GOOD FOR THEIR CAREERS. Well then, it should be an easy decision for them. Ask yourselves a few questions. Did I become a priest because I had a vocation? Do I still see it as a vocation, or is it now a career? Do I stand for truth, or for charades? 'You shall have no other Gods before me.'
ReplyDelete12.17: Utter raimeas. Such stupid, supercilious concerns. It's a lie to say that Bishops and senior clergy have been put under pressure. A total lie. No one can verify such claims. Apart from verifying or not, the issues you raise are innocuous and irrelevant. Just don't get your head in a twist. Go and help the poor and the homeless and you'll see real, human issues that will challenge you.
DeleteTo Anonymous at 13:46 Utter raimeas? Please explain what raimeas means. Oh, yes you mean RÁIMÉAS! You say that my concerns are stupid and supercilious, that the issues I raise are innocuous and irrelevant. Wow!! You do know that I didn't write the main article? That I didn't make the claims in it. I made comment and proposed some questions. Anyway, I've just checked the dictionary to make sure that I really understand the meaning of those BIG words you used. Are YOU sure that you understand them?
DeleteSupercilious: arrogant, haughty, conceited, disdainful, overbearing, pompous, condescending, superior,imperious, proud, lofty, lordly, snobbish, snobby, overweening, smug;
A person can be supercilious [ yes I can be supercilious if I need to be ], but can a person have supercilious concerns??
Innocuous: not likely to offend or upset anyone /
not likely to harm or hurt anyone or anything
Well the 'innocuous issues' certainly upset you!
As for irrelevant issues - well IF it's irrelevant and IF it's not a cause for concern whether priests and bishops are living out a vocation or are instead pursuing a career, that says it all!
By the way, I love that word .... RÁIMÉAS. Also ...... dúramán. 'Really expressive words. 'Need to be used in the correct context though.
Re: Westminster clergy - am I right in thinking that it was to this diocese Fr Hugh Kennedy headed several years ago?
ReplyDelete@12:17, yes indeed it was.
DeleteThe self-styled “Dean” of Belfast wanted to make a whole new life for himself - a totally fresh start - after having being accused of some little problem or other and having had to step aside from his role as entertainments manager, at Divisminster (aka St Peter’s Cathedral, Belfast).
He was later reinstated briefly but his tenure was coming to an end. Having refused an appointment in D&C, he had found, by his own devices and through highly positioned contacts, a cosy little nook for himself, at the well-heeled More House, in Kensington.
There he would have been in his absolute element, among the lovely young guys who board there, while studying at various prestigious London colleges. Young Catholic gentlemen of class and erudition, the “Dean” couldn’t believe his luck.
He was also a regular at Westminster Cathedral, his fine baritone often reverberating in those hallowed vaults, as he sang along heartily with its renowned choir and sought desperately to, even briefly, catch Vin’s eye.
Sadly, it all unravelled for him in December 2016 when another allegation of sexual assault was made against him and he had to step down, once again, from ministry.
There has been neither sight nor sound of him since.
Does anyone know if the big Dean would allow me to borrow all that gear he used to wear and that big medallion thingy around the streets of London. I would be happy to arrange collection in Portstewart
Delete10.49
ReplyDeleteGod is not capricious.
10.47
ReplyDeleteDavid, I thought you didn't read this blog!!!
Rod Strange has not really departed from the Beda. He has not, will not, let go. He is a regular visitor. Rod has even had himself appointed Chair of the Beda Association. It is understood that his rector-successor, Canon Philip Gillespie, unfortunately finds himself hindered and limited by the Strange looming presence. As for further preferment, Rod Strange was hugely ambitious and was hugely disappointed. Back then, when the current bishop of Shrewsbury was appointed, some of us in the college witnessed Rod's distress
ReplyDeleteand his subsequent days of depression with a lapse into the 'usual' indulgence, the liquid kind, which now features around the sexual problem in current Beda comments. All part of the history...
This arm-twisting by Holy Mother Church will just add weight to claims that Deenihan is unsuited to the episcopacy.
ReplyDeleteOh, dear! Looks as though Holy Mother Church has been f****d again...this time by herself!
HAH! HAH! HAH! HAH! 😅
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Mad Magna at 13:16
DeletePolly what have I told you about that foul language! stop it and wash your mouth with carbolic. I have already told you that long after you're burnt to a crisp and long forgotten Our Holy Mother The Church will be hear till the end of time. Remember she who laughs last, laughs longest. Love and prayers B. Eviva Maria!
Dear Pat Buckley ( you don't mind if I ignore your ontological superiority with the day thats in it in Mulingar, the currency is now much devalued...as they say in the World of Arbitrage; through the floor !!)
ReplyDeleteYou don't realise, but in a few years you will be looked on very favourably for ethically in this instance trying to stop a tragedy, again I know the hallmarks of Bradys handiwork . He is still a huge influence on the list of sixty permanently kept, a malevolent influence which crescendos at 3.00pm.
A well run diocese in a well oiled machine is now in the hands of a complete psychopath . I hope Michael Smith culled the vault to do his friends and himself a favour because the creation of a monster this afternoon is Bradys gift to the next few years and those who spoke against him. Duffy of Clogher got it in one : " Sean is limited ."
Bill you and I differ on certain views and certain ways of proceeding.
DeleteBut I respect and admire you.
The ontological change thing was an Aquinas invention.
You cannot contain God or spirituality in a philosophical idea.
The rodents as you call them are a vile mafia.
Today's gospel summed them up:
It was of you hypocrites that Isaiah so rightly prophesied in this passage of scripture:
This people honours me only with lip-service,
while their hearts are far from me.
The worship they offer me is worthless,
the doctrines they teach are only human regulations.
You put aside the commandment of God to cling to human traditions.’
14.16: Pat, the words spoken by Isaiah are also relevant for you and that filthy, vulgar, ignorant Mulvihill. You are both two faced hypocrites. You do not possess the virtues of mercy, truth, compassion or justice as Christ lived. You are both self righteous, arrogant and spiritually impoverished. Just reread the words you write. Lip service, worthless worship....You both personify precisely what Jesus condemns...along with all whom you hate. Mulvihill - you'd need a Lourdes bath for days to cleanse your mind and heart.
Delete13.16: A comment from the "queen" of filth who continually is f****d by drink. Magna - an utterly irrelevancy.
ReplyDelete'...an utter irrelevancy'? 😕
DeleteI got your attention, though. 😆
Bishop Pat, be wary of taking at face value anything reported by that former homosexual (by the grace of God 😅), Michael Voris.
ReplyDeleteThe man can't be honest with even himself (about his sexual orientation).
With others, then? 😕
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Pat I'm very happy TOm will be a bishop, thank God its not the bitchy Michael Fanny Mullaney. Mullaney with one glass of wine turns into a gossip. Mullaney loves to bitch about seminarians and preists he hates. Kevin Heery and Mark Mohan was two examples of Mullaney's gossip.
ReplyDeleteIs the Trolley Dolly in the choir today? She was singing lustily at the WMOF last week. Has Horny Andy any role? Thurifer? Ring bearer?
ReplyDeleteWilliam Mulvihill,
ReplyDeleteHow is your date with your female admirer going?
What age are you moron @ 16.36? 3 years old?
DeleteWhat age are you moron @ 17:18? 2 years old?
DeleteOur own Beda Bitch, Monty (better 'Montitty') is known to be a regular residential visitor with Michael Daley (Nurse Dally Dolly), --Pastor, Parsons Green.
ReplyDeleteAre they gin queens? Parsons Green is very grand/posh.
DeleteSurprised never have I witnessed a Papal Nuncio make a Bishop sign a mandate on the Altar and signed by Archbishop Eamon Martin as well as the metropolitan.
ReplyDeletepapal Nuncio covering his own back.
Now to sort out Dromore.
Bishops for Clogher, Cork and Ross, Achonry, Clonfert .
Then see what Archbishop Dermot Martin decided to do as his two Assistants go next year.
2019 it is Kilmore's turn
Interesting Times.
So if you know anyone who should not be a Bishop or Archbishop write to the Papal Nuncio now.
Surely Eamon Martin IS the Metropolitan? Does this mean that there is already some doubt and apprehension as there was when Keith O’Brien was made to sign something before getting his red hat? What men will do for a red hat - see Nichols at Westminster.
DeleteWhat about Cardinal Sarah
ReplyDeleteWhat about her?
Delete18.15 Cardinal Sarah nothing to do with Bishops and Pope Francis likely not renew Cardinal Sarah's appointment he is too right winged for Pope Francis.
ReplyDeleteSo sorry to hear about Sarah. I used to like writing to him and sorry his appointment might not be renewed. I did wonder because he returned my last letter and mispronounced my name when he referred to me sinply as Mr Caca Face. Maybe I should write to Oulette instead.
DeleteLondon priestly gossip, mainly among (royal i.e queenly) ex-Anglican infiltrators, counting Fr Tom among such, reports that the Very Reverend Rod Strange will be infuriated by present comments here, related to a Collegio Beda situation. It would appear that SHAME not Anger should be in order, particularly in view of the just recent sharpened consciousness of the crime of sexual-assault cover-up. Is not Dr Strange now exposed as involved in ecclesial cover-up in the matter of sexual assault with resulting physical battery which occurred in time under his responsibility, that time approaching 'sacred' ordination ? Shameful revelation and woeful failure !!
ReplyDeleteMonsignor Strange, far from Pennsylvania you must apologise for the damage you have inflicted by your negligence, on the reputation on the long-time celebrated Pontficio Collegio Beda.
It was as much Vin Nichols fault for ignoring complaints about this Seminarian. He should not have allowed him to proceed to Ordination and there may be a case of Vinny going against Rod Stranges advice. So many think it was inappropriate to have ordained this unsuitable character.
DeleteDidn’t Montgomery start off at Allen Hall under Mark O’Toole, now Bishop of Plymouth? So what was his advice? And why was he sent to the Beda? As usual you’ll never get a straight answer. It’s all cover up, and frankly bitching about the bastards on a blog is the only way to get anywhere near the truth - otherwise it’s all rosy in the garden, and we have to admire Father’s selfless generosity in giving up the prospects of becoming a husband and dad and getting a job in order to buy his own house and kitchen and pay his own bills. Phew! Good to get that off my chest!
DeleteI think Mont (titty) was an Anglican Franciscan for a time. So many changes regarding him it's hard to keep up.
DeleteTreanor off to Rome desk job post brexit. Dromore becomes part of Down n Connor. Timmy gets the mitre
ReplyDeleteBe quiet clown @18.49
Delete@18:49: aye, yer hole.
DeleteWas Coddle in Mullingar today?
ReplyDeleteThe homily in Mullingar was extremely poor. Didn’t address the need we Christians and non-Christians share, to find a source for hope. For RCs in the current tempestuous waters the barque of Peter finds itself currently in, and not least here in Ireland, not a single point of inspiration to cling on to. Not a prophetic syllable uttered by the preacher. Institutional safe pat. Not a necessary question identified. If that’s an indication of the best Fr Deenihan can find we are in worse trouble than we might have believed this time yesterday.
ReplyDeleteThere was more GAA than God in his acceptance homily back in June. We should just be lucky that it wasnt a case of a Fr. Ted golden cleric award speach.
Delete22:35 Did Fr Deenihan get a plug in for any Meath worthy this time, as at his acceptance speech?
DeleteYes. We could have tolerated an unnecessarily long liturgy (too much instrumental music, too many verses, at least one too many songs after Communion, three single queues for Holy Communion when each minister could have had an assistant, too long an epilogue from TD, no need for document signing on altar at nuncio’s behest, recession having to stall to allow rows of priests to be included etc.) if there had been a single word to inspire from any quarter. Eamon Martin was about the best addition to an otherwise prolix and most uninspiring event.
ReplyDeleteSurprised to hear that disappointment drove Rod Strange to the bottle, though he wouldn’t be the only toper who has been in charge of the Beda. At one time he might have envisaged a career ascent such as Nicholls, but he backed the wrong horse of Progress, and then came the Pole, whereas Nichols never got himself labeled as anything save a blatant careerist. What actually has Nicholls achieved at Westminster? He would have done a better job kept in Birmingham, except it would have gnawed away at him as Liverpool did for Warlock. Keep digging away at Westminster. Anybody who has bothered to follow the threads over the last few days will have built up quite a colourful jigsaw by now. Canon Stuart Wilson got himself in the Daily Mail a few years ago for sending out emails to his Chelsea parishioners asking them to refurnish his lavishly renovated presbytery by means of a John Lewis wish list - Peter Jones being conveniently around the corner on Sloane Square. Necessities included a 35 quid bog brush to remove the clerical caca. I might have felt mildly ashamed of myself for this kind of bitchy tittle-tattle, but I am sick of these characters posturing as pastors. It’s all one big confidence trick: can we all get that into our heads and tell everybody to stay away from them? Westminster parishes seem particularly keen on home improvements. I’ve stood in perfectly good presbytery kitchens where Father has said he wants something more upmarket - 10,000 quid filched from the Church restoration. Not to mention the parish credit cards used to stuff the fridge and drinks cupboard.
ReplyDeleteParish credit cards in Westminster purchase a lot of luxuries. They were at one stage used to pay personal mobile phone bills. Best restaurants and best of everything for the Chelsea, Kensington and Chiswick jet set. The amount of money spent on their seminary at Allen Hall over the last few years is nothing short of scandalous. One things for sure Vin will hate all this publicity that reflects badly on him.
DeleteI presume Meath used to be one of the wealthier diocese!
ReplyDelete20:41 Absolutely. And its seminarians from big-farm backgrounds in Maynooth’s hay day (unintended pun) were fabled for providing an accurate reflection of what a certain section of rural Ireland was thinking.
DeleteSIGNING OF DOCUMENT MULLINGAR
ReplyDeleteI have never seen a signing of a document on the altar of an episcopal ordination before ???
Had the Nuncio received the evidence he asked for today would not have happened, according to his own words.
Notice he played a very low key role today.
So Pat, why didn’t you provide it?
DeleteI do not have the evidence the Nuncio was looking for.
DeleteIt is with an individual in Cork who was not contactable.
Well + Pat I hope you seen the Papal Nuncio is Genuine but it is all about Truth and Facts and if he had it then you are correct it would never have happened.
DeleteI have been to many Archbishops and Bishops episcopal ordinations and they have never had to sign documents on the Altar.
The Papal Nuncio is no fool.
Illiterate Irish in Scotland alert at 12.51.
DeleteI'm very pleased that you're providing a forum for the clerical gossip (which has gone on for ever) to be made public.
ReplyDeleteEspecially if Cardinal Nicholls has some hidden stuff to come out. I would really rather he wasn't pope, and while your publishing stuff about him may not stop a conclave electing him, it would mean the world's media would have an immediate source for what he's about, which took a long time to happen with Francis.
The above account of his attitude towards a decision to ordain and towards others' advice is fairly typical. Even Pope Francis at least has some kind of ideology underpinning what he does - Nicholls's only ideology is what he wants and not being given trouble. As the comment above says - keep digging. I for one am certain there is loads of similar stuff to come out in Westminster and Birmingham.
Nicolls has better chance in the lottery than being Pope.
DeleteChris Vipers another ex Anglican clergyman in Westminster promoted to Vocations Director some years ago. A total raging queen with a filthy mouth who was partial to ogling young men. Total unsuitable character for that position.
ReplyDeleteIs it not ironic that this is the same parish at which the FSSP priest previously mentioned on here, Fr Armand de Malleray, says his Latin Mass for young people once a month? The said event at which his alleged young lover makes her appearance??
DeleteNow responsible for Young City Catholics. Vinnie does pick them. Sorry for my weird lateral thinking, but on the subject of clergy kitchens, Henry Dodd lived at Corpus Christi Maiden Lane back in the seventies with a cracked old butler’s sink and single cold tap. Just wondering what the presbytery looks like now since all that money was spent on renovating the Church.
Delete@21:39 Your comment about Fr Vipers is absolutely malign and untrue. I regularly attend Mass at St Mary Moorfield, and find him to be a very pleasant and approachable man. I have definitely never seen him 'ogling' at young men!
Delete@21:49 I once attended this Mass for young people, and again found no suggestion of impropriety.
I never said Fr Vipers was not pleasant or not approachable. If you are not there with him in the company of other priests only and under the influence of alcohol then you wouldn't understand my comments.
DeleteThanks for clarification, Chris.
Delete@21:49 Be careful, the said young (redhead) woman is apparently very well connected and known in English Catholic circles, especially in the Latin Mass crowd, and has been noted to develop considerable influence over such a short space of time.
Delete@22:49 I have attended the socials organised by both Juventutem and Young City Catholics, at which Fr Vipers is present. He does enjoy a glass or two, as we all do, but has never been in anyway foul-mouthed or improper. I also had occasion to share a table recently with him and the Fr de Malleray mentioned above, and both had great humour, but no vulgarity. Perhaps concern yourself more with the suggestions of the latter's affection for a certain refheaded woman!
Delete@23:06, is the same young woman now studying for her (second) degree in medicine/something similar at a University in London?
DeleteGood to know, Chris.
Delete23:23- The Student Nurse, gorgeous looking woman if you see her. Abbe has a good eye!
DeletePat, do any of the clergy/ people mentioned in these last 4-5 above have any contact with you, or vice-Versa? As I'm sure the young woman mentioned was described on here some months ago, as having been informed of these comments?
Delete23:29 Get out.
DeleteI rather think you have just provided a job description for prospective Vocation Directors the world over aka the process of “discernment”. Keep on going re Westminster. Anybody got anything else to tide over until Monday?
ReplyDeletePat your blog is causing phones to ring inside and outside London all day. The clergy telephones are buzzing. General consensus is +Vincent was foolish in this matter and made a big error of judgement. Some see this naturally as an opportunity to settle scores with him. Keep digging Buckley.
ReplyDeleteI have a copy of a report ordered by Vinnie on Fr. M.
DeleteOne of the bishops present in Mullingar today could have told you many a tale about Westminster. It's once Auxiliary Bishop, POD, Pat O Donoghue, another Cork man who was rector of its Seminary when in the heyday of it being referred to as Alice Hall. It made Gaynooth look like a place of virtue.
ReplyDeleteEm... people who know things of the clerical circles would be aware that POD is quite a prayerful man, meek and humble. His presence at the installation today was a surprise; however it draws back to the fact that when he retired he asked if he could take up a role as curate in Bantry. It happened that Bantry is the same town that Tom Deenihan has a private house in.
DeletePOD ended up at Lancaster where he made an absolute hash. England and Wales bishops utterly useless and recent appointments such as Egan, Davies and O’Toole worse than useless.
Delete22:45 A private house? On a curate’s salary?
DeleteNot true, they have vocations in their Dioceses and are solid. You have a problem with orthodoxy me thinks
DeleteAbsolute hash? Eh no. More like he saved it from the brink of bankruptcy and restructured parishes to match falling bumbers of priests. Do you know what you're talking about at all?
DeleteOh dear Pat, this could be embarrassing for Nichols!!!
ReplyDeleteKOB's old place in Northumberland is still vacant.
DeleteI think poor old POD had some notion of cleaning the place up. Does the garden still have a pond in the shape of an erect penis with a strategically placed fountain?
ReplyDeleteIt would be great if Treanor was sent to Rome or Timbuktu. He has NO personality, is a snob who likes to spend the Diocese money. Don't know about Bartlett getting the mitre though. Think he would continue the cover ups. Only one man for the job ( NOT the warbling crawling narcissist O'Hagan though- that would be going from bad to worse)Fr Gerry Magee. He'd sort them out. As good a man as you will ever find in the priesthood.
ReplyDeleteSome of the witnesses in the Kirchner corruption case are saying that the untraced cash was moved to the Vatican Bank in Red Cross diplomatic bags. Francis is, of course, a good friend to the Argentinian ex-president. This should be interesting. It would be odd if something so secular finished his papacy off.
ReplyDelete23.01 Sounds as if you’d be pleased. I wouldn’t hold my breath.
DeleteIt's official Paul Prior is a Jesuit Novice.
ReplyDeleteParish dodging again
DeletePat please write an extensive blog on Maynooth Directors of Formation. Its shocking how these men were empowered to cause so much damage on ypung men's lives.
ReplyDelete22:37, yeah right - tell that to some past pupils of St Malachy’s College who were traumatised by his explosive temper and acid tongue!
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