Monday, 8 January 2018

CAHAL DALY - BRITISH "AGENT"



SF leader knew armed struggle had become a political liability
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Irish Independent - 04.01.2018

Gerry Adams was said to have been working on a peace strategy in early 1987.




The Sinn Féin president was said to have privately believed that the IRA campaign would not succeed and that terrorism was hampering his own personal ambitions and attempts to win support for the party at the ballot box.

The previously unseen report, released under the 30-year rule from the Department of Foreign Affairs in Dublin, said Mr. Adams viewed the armed struggle as a "political liability".
The revelation was passed on to a diplomat by senior Catholic cleric Bishop Cahal Daly, who was also said to have spoken with "some vehemence of Adams's deviousness and fundamental untrustworthiness".




The confidential report, dated February 4, 1987, and compiled for officials in Iveagh House in Dublin, said: "The Bishop has picked up a rumour that Gerry Adams is currently trying to put together a set of proposals which would enable the Provisional IRA to call a halt to (its) paramilitary campaign.
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"He has reached the view that the 'armed struggle' is getting nowhere, that it has become a political liability to Sinn Féin both North and South and that, as long as it continues there is little chance that he will be able to realize his own political ambitions.
"What he is believed to be working on is some form of 'declaration of intent' to withdraw, with however long a timescale, on the part of the British government."

In the file, Bishop Daly also revealed that he had refused to meet Mr. Adams as president of Sinn Féin and that despite some "agonizing", he decided he would only have discussions with him as a "private individual".

Bishop Daly also said that if Sinn Féin won a Westminster seat for West Belfast in the election, that it would be a "tragedy".


PAT SAYS:


CAHAL DALY WAS A BRITISH AGENT AND SYMPATHISER WHO LIKED TO WINE AND DINE SENIOR POLICE OFFICERS AND BRITISH ARMY GENERALS IN HIS PALACE AND AT THE SAME TIME REFUSED TO MEET MEMBERS OF THE REPUBLICAN MOVEMENT.

Daly was never away from the Stormont offices of the British Secretary of State and British ministers.

He was also never away from the RUC Chief Constable's office in Belfast - even on one occasion insisting the staunchly  Protestant wife of Sir John Hermon - Lady Hermon the blessing for a pregnant mother!

Sir John Hermon personally told me that he found Daly to be a pest.

ON ONE OCCASION DALY ASKED ME TO GIVE HERMON INFORMATION ON REPUBLICAN PEOPLE ON THE FALLS ROAD!

I must say on the half dozen occasions I met Hermon he NEVER ONCE asked me to betray my people.

But Daly did!

DALY AS BRITISH SOLDIER!


Daly has a pathological hatred for the Republican Movement.

He was quite happy to meet British Generals in their capacity as British Army commanders.

He was quite happy to meet RUC officers in their capacity as police officers.

He was quite happy to go to Buckingham Palace and have tea with the Royals.

But he was not happy to meet Gerry Adams as the leader of Republicanism.


On one occasion the British Government offered Daly a seat in the House of Lords.

Daly wanted to accept it - but was ordered by Rome not to.


We will probably never know the full extent of Daly's co-operation with the British Establishment.

And if we did we might be shocked to see the lengths Daly was willing to go to to oblige them. 


99 comments:

  1. Interesting Was Daly a Judas or just a small little man who needed the establishment to make him feel taller

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  2. He was a Judas Iscariot who betrayed his people.

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  3. Here we go again Pat. Do you ever tire of your pathological, irrational hatred for Cathal Daly? You have become tiresome in your self righteousness and arrogance. You have no moral integrity left. You are consumed with a deep seated hatred of and contempt for all things CATHOLIC. Move on and allow peace to take hold.

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  4. Lord have mercy on Cardinal Daly. he was a very kind man.

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    1. He wasn't very kind to Pat.

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    2. pat is difficult at the best of times.

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    3. 10.38 And Pat was definitely not kind to Cardinal Daly. Pat has bullying form. We all know this.

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    4. I have no doubt that Pat can be difficult but his hard work and commitment outweighs that. Cahal Daly should have been able to work with him.

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    5. I'm sure that Pat can be difficult too - and in 1984 he was 33 years younger and had all the flaws that younger, less wiser, inexperienced men have.

      But my heart was in the right place and I was devoted to my vocation and work.

      I clashed with older clergy who were of a very different mindset and I was regarded as disobedient and of not knowing my place.

      At my last meeting with CD - 5.10.1985 9 pm - I said to him: "I'm amazed that a wise man like you can think of no other way to deal with me than exile".

      But it was 1985 and bishops were still very powerful in Ireland.

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    6. 16.33. Add to your sentence..." Pat should have been able to work with Cahal..." Why is all the blame placed on the deceased Cardinal? Pat contributed hugely to the "conflict". Isn't that obvious from the trucculent, nasty nature which, sadly, is deep rooted in Pat!! God rest the good Cardinal.

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    7. Fair point, but Cahal was the older more experienced man, if I was him I would have tried to use Pats energy and enthusiasm rather than trying to extinguish it.

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    8. Pat needed a medal the size of a dustbin lid putting up with Cahal. That wizened aul bitch should have been left in the scholastic philosophy department at QUB.

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  5. Shut your mouth Buckley, you are the liability with SF.

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  6. He betrayed the nationalist people of Portadown. They never forgave him, even in death.

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  7. Poor old Cathal had his issues and faults no doubt; but he’s not here to defend himself.

    What is very clear to many people, Pat, is that you too have issues and faults.

    I would love to ask Sylvia Hermon about the pregnancy blessing and get her take on it, if it actually happened.

    You need to get over yourself, Pat. Cathal will possibly be your roommate in Purgatory so that you can both address your issues and egos together. Who says the Lord doesn’t have a sense of humour?

    Throw in that clampet Magna Carta and it will be a right cosy little menage a trois! LOL

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    1. I heard that.😡

      You're off my petitionary-prayer list for a week. No; for two weeks.

      And it's 'Cahal', not 'Cathal'.😆

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    2. Oh yes and I;m supposed to be bothered about this? I have no time for you Magna or your ridiculous observations. you are childish and devoid of any reasoned assessment. Enjoy Purgatory

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    3. now now Magna the poster is clearly in need of your petitionary assistance!!! a good Catholic republican like yourself should know better

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    4. I'm quite hurt. MC has never offered to stop praying for me.

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    5. I've got my eye on you.👀

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    6. trust me Magna we in Maynooth figured out who you are long ago! PRICK!

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    7. 21:12, trust YOU? Someone at Maynooth, that bastion of moral probity and testoserone-fuelled, heterosexual machismo.(Oh! Did I mention intellectual brain death?)

      You BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😆

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    8. Well who is he? Publish!

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    9. I seriously hope he isn't part of Catholic formation/catechesis with his complete ignorance of those things. Wait for him to start wittering on about capital punishment now...

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    10. I'd make an exception to the death penalty in your case, 22:03.👎😆

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  8. Yes, Lord have mercy on Cardinal Daly. He should be treated with some modicum of respect. But, Pat, the otger BUCKLEY, always sees the splinter in other eyes before his own. Hypocrite Pat, through and through. Your spirit is impoverished if you nedd to keep Cahal Daly to the forefront. What an easy life you live!!

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  9. Funny that gay icon of the Galway clergy is in Venice, Florida with his girlfriend xxx Xxxx What's he playing at? Is this payback time from her after all his crying on her shoulder?

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    1. could you be anymore cryptic

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    2. Yes, I heard that in Galway the other day. Some of his former colleagues worried that Ms DN now has her claws in him for good. The two of them were being hosted by a Galway priest now living and working in Florida. Pity about the snow! Hope it didn't spoil their break in the sun. Important for Mr L to keep the tan up for when he's back teaching in Moate.

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    3. Is this Frankie Lee we're talking about? Lol

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    4. What has happened to Fr Alan Burke, the curate in Oughterard? He's been out of circulation a while now. Is he a friend of Dee N too?

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    5. The new bishop in Galway has his work cut out, but then he knows where all the bodies are buried. Donal O Neill could tell him a thing or two from his new perch at the Bons Secours.

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    6. There was a lot of vitriol from Galway sources last year or whenever it was that the whole Frankie Lee story blew up on this site. You'd love to know what was behind that? Clerical infighting? Given some of what was said, it must have come from within the clergy. Or was there a bit of revenge for Lee's name been quoted in relation to Gaynooth, Lavery and the now eminent cleric, being caught in flagrante? And the clumsy attempt to link Lee and Prof Conway of Maynnoth, when they fell out more than twenty years ago and haven't spoken since. What do you think Pat? Is there something rotten in the kingdom of Galway?

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  10. Pat is hurt and that should be acknowledged. we don't know the full details of what occurred and never will as Cathal Daly is not here to give his own version of events. May the man rest in peace.

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  11. Pat was hurt and may still be?

    Cabal had many opportunities to give his version and chose not to.

    However today's Blog is about Cahal's political outlook and activities.

    A different subject.

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    1. Who cares Pat. You kill stories and their relevance by constantly retracing. Your only motivation here is to elicit the usual venom against the dead. You have no respect for the living or the dead. You gave Cardinal Daly a hugely hurtful, difficult time. You also need to offer your apology for the hurt you caused.

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    2. What hurt did I cause at that time?

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    3. 14.21. That's a question you, Pat, have to answer. In your arrogant and errant attitude you'll always be blind to the damage, hurt and suffering you caused Cardinal Daly and others with your self righteousness. So, look deep into your heart and conscience. You are not a flawless human being!! 2018 will obviously dish up the same, predictable diatribes from your mouth.

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    4. You are right. I am, of course, flawed.

      I was a young, inexperienced working hard, and not afraid to express my views.

      But the question remains: "What was I doing that was so wrong that it deserved summary dismissal"?

      Leaving my faults aside, do you not think Daly could have handled things better,?

      The fault is never all on one side.

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    5. Yes Pat, the fault is never all one side as you say at 17.07..So, it's nice to think yiu believe your own words in accepting your responsibility re: your conflict with Cahal Daly. GoOd to see you are open to TRUTH !!!

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  12. this is not a definitive assessment of Cardinal Daly's political outlook or activities. it is presented from the perspective of the blog author. we can never know the full extent nor can we speculate or have any certainty as to the late cardinals political views. The Cardinal is now long deceased and with that he should be allowed to rest in peace. May his good deeds go with him for as his faith united him to Gods people on earth so may the mercy of God now join him to the angels in heaven.

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    1. Under the 30 year rule papers showing CD's activities are coming to light.

      These shed light on his political views and are part of history.

      I wish him the happiness of Heaven too.

      But history is important.

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  13. It is really quite overly-emotional and self-centred of +Pat to keep raking up Cahil Daly again and again, especially when there must be some sort of scandal to report from Gaynooth over the holidays.

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    1. Cahal Daly is in the news this week NOT because of me but because of papers released under the 30 year rule!!!

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    2. 14:13 feck off back into your bedroom and play with your fisher price laptop!

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    3. @14.13 A bukkake, perhaps?

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  14. Pat, There was an even more dangerous individual in the D & C Presbyterate as far as damaging you was concerned. Retired now but still alive !! Now there you are.

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    1. That does not surprise me.

      I do not know who you are speaking of - but I could make a few guesses.

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    2. So name all the retired...shouldn’t take long.

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  15. any updates on the mad puck goat

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    1. No. We were last told that he is with Ryanair?

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    2. this is a lie

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    3. How do we know it's not True?

      Personally I cannot see King Puck as a trolley doolly.

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    4. @17:58 End ongoing speculation and guesswork for the the readers sake.

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    5. lets be honest here lads. puck is about 5 foot and a little overweight and well....in an emergency situation would it be wise to allow him to take control of evacuations etc. I'd say hes still a deacon/little altar server in Kerry and happy and content for little old biddies to fuss over him and give him money for looking cute and priest-ish.

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    6. Your phrase "little old biddies" is nasty and objectionable. Don't you think before you write things down!

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    7. Cabin crew for Ryanair last seen on Dublin to Malaga route. Sleeves are a bit too long on his Ryanair jacket. Yes the aisle is a bit snug for him but he manages!

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    8. Check the Killarney Cathedral webcam to see if there is any sign of the mad puck goat.

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    9. He breathes in when going down the aisle. He still pronounces procedamus in pace, when he sets off on the tea round. There's an ancient memory lingering in him of that being said by the MC in the sacristy of the Maynooth College Chapel (open by appointment only, for concerts and for carol services).

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  16. All the Daly's are the same met his brother recently and a stone was more Christian by his own words. Thankfully I will never need to be in his company for any revealed truth.

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    1. I did not know he had living siblings?

      A priest who had a lot of contact with the Dalys tell me they were not a nice family?

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    2. PS: It is worth listening to the older people in Loughguile and their memories of the Dalys.

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    3. "All the Dalys.."

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    4. "All the Dalies.."

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    5. @21.59
      "..All the Walleys"..

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  17. Lets put it this way don't go to Ballycastle if you have MS he will treat you like dog dirt on his shoes.

    But if anything he's doing good at the implosion. lololol

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    1. BH, If you are referring to the PP of Ballycastle - he is Dalys nephew, not his brother.

      I have not met him for years. But he used to have a very foul mouth.

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    2. Some very venomous material on here today directed against +Pat. I’ve never met him and I don’t always feel entirely comfortable with all that is on this blog but the heated personal attacks are excessive, especially those presuming to know how God will judge him.

      I don’t presume to know how God will treat me and all I have done. I simply hope for His loving mercy.

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    3. If you ever wish to meet me I would be happy to.

      You can ask me anything.

      I know that not everybody agrees with all on the blog.

      And I not expect them to :-)

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    4. 18.24. Pat has made many a nast judgment about others and caused much hurt. He doesn't believe in God's judgment - if he did, he would show greater mercy. It's a gospel imperative.

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    5. im not the poster at 18:24 but I'd gladly make a trip to larne for a cup of tea, rich tea biscuits and a natter.

      rc_2016Eire

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    6. You would be welcome anytime.

      And we can discuss anything you wish.

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    7. 19:38. I did not defend +Pat and I emphasised that I did not agree with everything I read here. What I don’t think is right is to proclaim confidently that anyone is going anywhere after death whether Heaven, Purgatory or Hell. That’s God’s work - and I’m glad of it.

      Criticise what someone says, yes. Reject their ideas. Say that you feel their behaviour is excessive and driven by personal hurt/resentment. All of these might be fair comment, especially if backed up by evidence.

      But to resort to venomous abuse and condemning someone to suffering after death does not, in my opinion, lend strength to anyone’s argument, however provoked they may feel or however justified they might feel in their anger.

      I suspect from following this blog for some years, +Pat is quite robust enough to deal with this. But I’m just as sad to read such invective directed at him as I would be if it were directed at anyone, even the worst of those we have read about on here.

      My opinion ... such as it is.

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    8. 18:24? you should more than hope for God's mercy; you should expect it, for God IS merciful. Merely to hope for his mercy is half to expect its denial. A hurt to God and a doubting of his nature, his love.

      But expect his mercy always with gratitude. It is neither presumptious nor arrogant to do so.

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    9. Thank you.

      I am robust - thanks to God.

      "Life breaks us all - and some get strong at the broken places".

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    10. 20:47. Forgive me if I choose to express myself in a way that feels comfortable and natural for me and my own relationship with God, tempered by a knowledge of my own failings.

      I have no doubt you are entirely correct theologically and thank you for your comment.

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  18. Pronounced Lough...giley by many lol

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  19. Daly by name Daly by nature then, on hearing the crap I lost interest. But he did want to sail with the "GLORY" of the name.

    BALL ROOT OF JESSE AND ALL THAT CRAP

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    1. 17.51. Ignorant and stupid. Unintelligible garbage.

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  20. When I read all the nasty stuff directed at Pat above....I try to imagine who wd type that and invariably my mind drifts toward the ordained men reading here.

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    1. Most will be haricot beans reading here.

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    2. 18.38. If they are ordained men, they're entitled to their opinion. I'm not ordained but I know enough to express disapprovingly of Pat and his behaviour So, don't make such wild, silly assumptions. I have little time for people who carry hate agendas against clerics or the Church, as Pat has. He is not always right. Truth, yes, hatred, no.

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    3. A sizeable number of non clerics read this blog if I and my circle are anything to go by. It’s better than Coronation St although, like the soaps, there are some boring episodes and storylines lol

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    4. So you have and belong to a circle.
      Would that be the circle that continually attack Magna?
      Just asking.
      I like to think that I post as an individual with my own opinions...not a circle of opinions.

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  21. anyone see a certain Facebook post about Maynooth? My heart leapt when I saw it. f*cking delighted someones had the courage to speak up

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    1. No. Not everyone does Facebook. What was it about?

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    2. What did the FB comment say.

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    3. I’m on Facebook, depends if you saw it on a personal page or a public page.
      I didn’t see it, so perhaps you could tell us who’s page it was on ?

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    4. I think it's a hoax @21:29

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    5. "whose page"

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  22. If there is s D& C priest who was instrumental in ridding the diocese of Pat the B he should be canonized even if still alive!

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  23. 19.36. I’m not posting about opinions, I’m posting about nasty name calling.
    Nothing wild or silly about my thinking, and your opinions come across as aggressive, maybe some compassion would be helpful.
    Sorry that you have little time for some posters here, maybe ignoring would help.

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  24. 21.32, I reject unverifiable conclusions and unfair, generalised conjecture - i.e - your assumption that all anti Pat comments are from ordained men. Simply not true. There are peoole of every hue who blog here.

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    1. This is Pat’s blog, you and I and others post here.

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  25. I like Cahal's impish smile in the red hat photo.

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  26. Allegations that Cahal Daly was a British agent have no credence without proof. What is known about Cahal Daly is from his publications, homilies, and public statements. He was opposed to the IRA and spoke out against them because they used murder to advance their aims. There is no suggestion that in doing so he was motivated by a desire to serve British interests rather than upholding the Ten Commandments.

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    1. It is quite obvious that Cahal Daly's opposition to the IRA was based on moral abhorrence of murder. That Pat never mentions this is to my mind very sinister.

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  27. Of course Cathal Daly could not meet Gerry Adams in his public role -- to do so would be to countenance the IRA terror campaign.

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