Pennsylvania sex abuse report presents crucial test for Pope Francis
By Daniel Burke, CNN Religion Editor
(CNN)The Vatican broke its silence on Thursday about a Pennsylvania grand jury report that detailed decades of sexual abuses by priests and cover-ups by bishops, calling the accusations "criminal and morally reprehensible."
"Regarding the report made public in Pennsylvania this week, there are two words that can express the feelings faced with these horrible crimes: shame and sorrow," said Greg Burke, director of the Vatican's Press Office.
"The Holy See treats with great seriousness the work of the Investigating Grand Jury of Pennsylvania and the lengthy Interim Report it has produced. The Holy See condemns unequivocally the sexual abuse of minors."
"Regarding the report made public in Pennsylvania this week, there are two words that can express the feelings faced with these horrible crimes: shame and sorrow," said Greg Burke, director of the Vatican's Press Office.
"The Holy See treats with great seriousness the work of the Investigating Grand Jury of Pennsylvania and the lengthy Interim Report it has produced. The Holy See condemns unequivocally the sexual abuse of minors."
This week, Pope Francis had been under increasing pressure to address a rapidly escalating sexual abuse crisis that has spread across several continents, from Australia to Latin America.
The crisis presents a crucial test for Francis' papacy, which has stumbled badly at times to address sexual abuse among clergy. Some Catholics are worried that the Pope's ability to serve as a moral witness for the world could be compromised should he fail to act decisively.
"The clock is ticking for all of us in Church leadership," said Cardinal Sean O'Malley of Boston, the Pope's top adviser on sexual abuse. "Catholics have lost patience with us and civil society has lost confidence in us."
In a vivid symbol of how the crisis is engulfing church leaders, O'Malley himself has had to cancel a trip to Ireland for the World Meeting of Families, a large papal event to be held in Ireland next week, to deal with a sexual misconduct investigation in his archdiocese's own seminary.
The Vatican's comments came 48 hours after the Pennsylvania report was released. The Pope himself has yet to remark on the accusations in the nearly 900-page report.
In the United States, liberal and conservative Catholics displayed a rare unity in pressing the Pope to respond to the Pennsylvania grand jury report. The state's Attorney General called it the "largest, most comprehensive report into child sexual abuse within the Catholic Church ever produced in the United States."
The report said internal documents from six Catholic dioceses in Pennsylvania -- some held in a secret archive to which only the bishop had a key -- show that more than 300 "predator priests" have been credibly accused of sexually abusing more than 1,000 child victims.
The lengthy catalog of clergy sexual abuses in the report is difficult to read. As the grand jurors note, priests and other Catholic leaders victimized boys and girls, teens and pre-pubescent children.
Some victims were plied with alcohol and groped or molested, the report says. Others were orally, vaginally or anally raped, according to the grand jurors.
"There are so many things the church speaks about that are politically sensitive topics," said Kurt Martens, a professor of canon law at The Catholic University of America. "When we do not adequately address an issue as serious as sexual abuse, it undermines the credibility of church leaders."
"The clock is ticking for all of us in Church leadership," said Cardinal Sean O'Malley of Boston, the Pope's top adviser on sexual abuse. "Catholics have lost patience with us and civil society has lost confidence in us."
In a vivid symbol of how the crisis is engulfing church leaders, O'Malley himself has had to cancel a trip to Ireland for the World Meeting of Families, a large papal event to be held in Ireland next week, to deal with a sexual misconduct investigation in his archdiocese's own seminary.
The Vatican's comments came 48 hours after the Pennsylvania report was released. The Pope himself has yet to remark on the accusations in the nearly 900-page report.
In the United States, liberal and conservative Catholics displayed a rare unity in pressing the Pope to respond to the Pennsylvania grand jury report. The state's Attorney General called it the "largest, most comprehensive report into child sexual abuse within the Catholic Church ever produced in the United States."
The report said internal documents from six Catholic dioceses in Pennsylvania -- some held in a secret archive to which only the bishop had a key -- show that more than 300 "predator priests" have been credibly accused of sexually abusing more than 1,000 child victims.
The lengthy catalog of clergy sexual abuses in the report is difficult to read. As the grand jurors note, priests and other Catholic leaders victimized boys and girls, teens and pre-pubescent children.
Some victims were plied with alcohol and groped or molested, the report says. Others were orally, vaginally or anally raped, according to the grand jurors.
"There are so many things the church speaks about that are politically sensitive topics," said Kurt Martens, a professor of canon law at The Catholic University of America. "When we do not adequately address an issue as serious as sexual abuse, it undermines the credibility of church leaders."
'Betrayals of trust'
The grand jury described the church's methods as "a playbook for concealing the truth."
The grand jurors said that "almost every instance of abuse we found is too old to be prosecuted." But charges have been filed against two priests, one in Erie diocese and another in Greensburg diocese, who have been accused of abusing minors.
"The abuses described in the report are criminal and morally reprehensible," Burke said. "Those acts were betrayals of trust that robbed survivors of their dignity and their faith. The Church must learn hard lessons from its past, and there should be accountability for both abusers and those who permitted abuse to occur."
But Burke also noted that most of the abuse accusations detailed in the grand jury's report occurred before 2002, when the US Catholic bishops adopted new policies designed to inform law enforcement of accusations and quickly remove accused clergy from office.
"The abuses described in the report are criminal and morally reprehensible," Burke said. "Those acts were betrayals of trust that robbed survivors of their dignity and their faith. The Church must learn hard lessons from its past, and there should be accountability for both abusers and those who permitted abuse to occur."
But Burke also noted that most of the abuse accusations detailed in the grand jury's report occurred before 2002, when the US Catholic bishops adopted new policies designed to inform law enforcement of accusations and quickly remove accused clergy from office.
"By finding almost no cases after 2002, the Grand Jury's conclusions are consistent with previous studies showing that Catholic Church reforms in the United States drastically reduced the incidence of clergy child abuse," Burke said.
Burke said the Vatican "encourages continued reform and vigilance at all levels of the Catholic Church, to help ensure the protection of minors and vulnerable adults from harm."
Burke also said the Vatican emphasizes the "need to comply with civil law," including child abuse requirements.
"Victims should know that the Pope is on their side. Those who have suffered are his priority, and the Church wants to listen to them to root out this tragic horror that destroys the lives of the innocent," Burke said.
While Burke called for "accountability," there is little agreement among Catholic leaders about what that might mean.
By church law, only the Pope can discipline or remove bishops.
Burke said the Vatican "encourages continued reform and vigilance at all levels of the Catholic Church, to help ensure the protection of minors and vulnerable adults from harm."
Burke also said the Vatican emphasizes the "need to comply with civil law," including child abuse requirements.
"Victims should know that the Pope is on their side. Those who have suffered are his priority, and the Church wants to listen to them to root out this tragic horror that destroys the lives of the innocent," Burke said.
While Burke called for "accountability," there is little agreement among Catholic leaders about what that might mean.
By church law, only the Pope can discipline or remove bishops.
'Failure of episcopal leadership'
Burke's statement did not mention another sex scandal rocking the Catholic Church in the US: the accusations against former Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, a well-connected church leader who led the Archdiocese of Washington from 2001-2006.
McCarrick, who recently resigned from the church's College of Cardinals, has been accused of molesting young boys and seminarians -- accusations he denies.
On Thursday, Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, said the bishops have begun to outline a plan that would ask the Vatican to launch a full investigation into McCarrick, make reporting of abuse and misconduct by bishops "easier" and advocate for "better procedures" to resolve complaints against bishops.
McCarrick, who recently resigned from the church's College of Cardinals, has been accused of molesting young boys and seminarians -- accusations he denies.
On Thursday, Cardinal Daniel DiNardo, president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, said the bishops have begun to outline a plan that would ask the Vatican to launch a full investigation into McCarrick, make reporting of abuse and misconduct by bishops "easier" and advocate for "better procedures" to resolve complaints against bishops.
"The first criterion is genuine independence," DiNardo said. "Any mechanism for addressing any complaint against a bishop must be free from bias or undue influence by a bishop. Our structures must preclude bishops from deterring complaints against them, from hampering their investigation, or from skewing their resolution."
DiNardo also said that lay people -- not just church clerics -- should be given "substantial involvement."
"Whatever the details may turn out to be regarding Archbishop McCarrick or the many abuses in Pennsylvania (or anywhere else), we already know that one root cause is the failure of episcopal leadership."
DiNardo said he plans to present his plans to church officials in Rome, where he will urge them to take more "concrete steps."
"This is a moral catastrophe," said DiNardo. "It is also part of this catastrophe that so many faithful priests who are pursuing holiness and serving with integrity are tainted by this failure. We firmly resolve, with the help of God's grace, never to repeat it."
DiNardo also said that lay people -- not just church clerics -- should be given "substantial involvement."
"Whatever the details may turn out to be regarding Archbishop McCarrick or the many abuses in Pennsylvania (or anywhere else), we already know that one root cause is the failure of episcopal leadership."
DiNardo said he plans to present his plans to church officials in Rome, where he will urge them to take more "concrete steps."
"This is a moral catastrophe," said DiNardo. "It is also part of this catastrophe that so many faithful priests who are pursuing holiness and serving with integrity are tainted by this failure. We firmly resolve, with the help of God's grace, never to repeat it."
We may admire whistleblowers, but they’re the ones who pay dearly
We may well admire the whistleblower in the abstract but the organizations we, and they, belong to, are more primitive in their reactions, writes Mary Morrissy
WHO’D be a whistleblower? Even a cursory look at Sgt Maurice McCabe’s life since he alleged wrongdoing with regard to driving penalty points in 2008 would convince most of us that it’s not worth it. For almost a decade he’s been shunned in his workplace, pilloried in the Dáil, labelled “disgusting” by a former Garda commissioner, falsely accused of sex abuse, had his character blackened, his personal reputation trampled upon and his privacy destroyed. Hell hath no fury like a system scorned.
A minister for justice and a Garda commissioner have lost their jobs as a result of the ensuing controversy, but McCabe is the biggest loser here. No matter what the outcome of the various commissions of inquiry that have stemmed from his initial complaint, his life has utterly change.
For despite all our lip service to the conscientious objector, despite all the supposed legal protections and social safeguards put in place — in Ireland’s case the Protected Disclosures Act 2014 — most whistleblowers, in the end, become scapegoats. Even the famous ones pay a high personal price for their activities. Look at Edward Snowden, exiled in Moscow; Chelsea Manning, who served six years in jail; Julian Assange who is holed up in the Ecuadorian embassy in London. Hardly a glorious resolution for any of them.
They’re the ones we know about. There are others whose names have all but disappeared from the record. Take Fr Bruno Mulvihill. Who, you say? Hardly a household name, though he should be. Fr Mulvihill played a major part in the conviction of the notorious paedophile priest Brendan Smyth in the 1990s. His testimony exposed not just evidence of Smyth’s heinous crimes but a record of persistent and wilful denial by the institutional church which facilitated Smyth to abuse repeatedly in the full knowledge of his sexual proclivities. (It is estimated that Smyth sexually assaulted 117 children in Ireland — and countless victims elsewhere — between 1945 and 1989.) Fr Mulvihill was a whistleblower before it was popular or profitable, if it ever is. In 1964 when he was a 19-year-old novice at the Norbertine Abbey in Kilnacrott, Co Cavan, he heard what he described as peculiar noises from the sacristy where Smyth was closeted with two altar servers. When he reported his suspicions to the abbot, he was told he was “imagining things”.
There are no photos of Fr Bruno (although the demonic images of Smyth persist in the popular imagination) and what is known of him is slight. He attended Garbally College, a seminary boarding school in Ballinasloe, where he was remembered as studious, artistic (he was an accomplished pianist) and otherworldy. “If Enda [his name before he entered the priesthood] ever broke the rules it was to read material of an abstruse theological or scholarly nature without first seeking approval,” a classmate recalls. His decision to go for the priesthood didn’t surprise anyone.
But what turned him into a whistleblower, a role that eventually forced him out of his beloved Church because his life had been made so intolerable within it? What made him so dogged and fearless when his experience of life had been, seemingly, so narrow — a rural home, a Catholic boarding school, followed by a year in a novitiate? Perhaps it was this very lack of worldliness, coupled with his youthfulness and idealism?
C Fred Alford, professor of government at the University of Maryland, author of a study into the personal impact of whistleblowing, Broken Lives and Organisational Power, cites several reasons to explain why whistleblowers do what they do. They have an imagination of the consequences, a sense of the historical moment, identification with the victim, an inability to hold double standards on moral conflict and a sense of shame. He adds another ethical category to account for whistleblowers’ actions — a higher form of narcissism. “Whistleblowers blow the whistle because they dread living with a corrupted self more than they dread isolation from others.”
Whatever motivated Fr Bruno Mulvihill, his life was twinned with Brendan Smyth’s from the day he first reported what he heard. For 20 years, he pursued the paedophile priest, reporting his suspicions to abbots, bishops and the Vatican, in writing and in person. But to no avail. Until 1995, when he returned to Ireland from Germany to make a formal statement to gardaí about his knowledge of Smyth’s crimes.
Smyth was arrested in 1991 by the RUC but after being released on bail went on the run for three years, staying for much of that time at Norbertine Abbey in Kilnacrott . An RUC extradition request remained unprocessed in the attorney general’s office for seven months, triggering a political crisis that led to the 1994 collapse of the Fianna Fáil/Labour coalition, led by Albert Reynolds. (Later that year, Smyth was sentenced to 12 years for the sexual assault of 20 victims. A month later he died of a heart attack in the Curragh prison.) Meanwhile Fr Mulvihill left the priesthood in frustration, and died aged 59 in a car crash in Germany in 2004.
Which brings us back to the question — who’d be a whistleblower?
Only the brave and the very resilient, according to Prof Alford. In his research for Broken Lives and Organisational Power he examined how more than 30 whistleblowers had fared after they had made their claims. Most had lost their jobs and would never work in the same field again, as court cases and tribunals dragged on. The majority suffered from depression, and alcoholism was common. For all of them it was a traumatic experience. The instinct to destroy the truth-teller is endemic in human behaviour.
We may well admire the whistleblower in the abstract but the organisations we, and they, belong to, are more primitive in their reactions. Perhaps it’s the fear of the informer, the snitch in our midst? The corporate and institutional instinct is to close ranks and turn on the person who dares to stand up and be counted. Up against a powerful system, the whistleblower is dismissed as a fanatic, unstable, unsavoury, sexually suspect, or someone who’s acting out of personal grievance or for gain. A binary narrative is often imposed on those who rock the boat; they’re either nuts or sluts.
The earliest of the modern-day whistleblowers, helicopter pilot Ron Ridenhour, the Vietnam veteran who in 1969 first disclosed the massacre at My Lai of dozens of Vietnamese civilians by US troops, was initially dismissed as a fortune hunter with a vested interest. Ridenhour said later his motives were more closely scrutinised than those whom he was accusing. ‘’The question most often put to me was not why they had done it, but why I had done it.”
Being a whistleblower has eaten up a decade of Maurice McCabe’s life. Not because of anything he did, but because of the ferocity of the official response to his challenging of the administration of power. His motives were idealistic but in the topsy-turvy world of institutional revenge, he’s the one who’s been characterised as corrupt.
Our laws may enshrine protection for whistleblowers, but the experience of the Maurice McCabes and the Bruno Mulvihills of this world tell us otherwise.
If the Gardai were not so compromised themselves with their own selection of Paedophilies , they would have arrested, charged , and imprisioned Sean Brady, but he is one of their own !!!!!!
ReplyDeleteAnd you are a lunatic with nothing to offer but Bullshit, get a life and give the truth not innuendo!
DeleteYesterday's post mentioned Fr. Patrick Bonner of Raphoe, now based in NYC. A very attractive looking guy.
ReplyDelete00 26: What's the relevance of your silly, inane, crap comment? Gossip!!
DeleteMay God bless and protect Fr William Mulvihill from the apparent "Christians" who denigrate both him and this blog but who only manifest their fear and outrage of the manifestation of the terrible Truth.
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ReplyDelete@03.08 So you are both Willow thewisp and MMM. Says it all. Too much Spirits late at night perhaps for causing such an identity crisis.
DeleteWhy is this "willo thewisp" using my name? Someone is having an identity crisis, that's for sure. I'm getting really sick and tired of this, randomers using my name.
DeleteMMM
23.51: For making so outrageous an accusation, the Gardai should handcuff you on arrival and dump you where you belong-
ReplyDeleteSince when is it a crime to criticise the Gardai?
DeleteSgt. McCabe has shown us deep corruption in the Guards.
08.24: Let Mulvihill and you substantiate your generalised comment. Be specific. Bet you both Don't have the moral courage. Easier to insinuate than verify.
DeletePat, wehere's Mulvihill's big revelation promised by him last night? This guy needs help!
ReplyDeleteBill is on a journey.
DeleteAll will be well.
Patsy at08:40
DeletePatsy where is revelation we were promised by this Mulvihill? You say he is on a journey, but where is that taking him too? I don't think all will be well! Eviva Maria!
Lives really important journies often involve passing through times of a bumpy ride.
DeleteBut that's the price we pay for a happy destination, including our happy eternal destination.
09.29: ("Lifes" and "journeys")!!. You and Mulvihill are in consort together threatening all kinds of apocalyptic moments. This has been your narrative for so long. Where are the promised stories from your "well" friend bromancing on the Seine?
Delete10:53 - "Life's", actually.
DeletePatsy at 09:29
DeleteI don't think either you or he will have a happy eternal destination. It's going to be rather HOT!
A legion of Mary hit squad are awaiting his flight in Dublin airport, he's to be taken to Concillium HQ for 're-education'.
ReplyDelete:-)
His journey has taken him round the bend.
ReplyDelete"Round the bend" is where many people discover wonderful things.
DeleteNo Cross, no Crown.
I see the knives are out for the whistleblower fr bill,I bet their been wielded by priests from Armagh
ReplyDeleteI understand that many Armagh priests like Bill.
DeleteOf course there are a few Quinnites plotting and scheming.
"They dug a pit in my path but fell in it themselves".
Patsy at 08:51
Delete,This Mulvihill is digging a pit for himself, and with your supportive comments you're both going to fall into it. Eviva Maria!
Magna darling, I'm most upset that you didn't leap to my defense the other day when somebody alleged that I and that poisonous Bellarmine creature are one and the same. While I aim for a certain, shall we say, vaudeville tone to my pronouncements, I'm not a real person. I'm very much afraid that Bellarmine is a real person of a sort of irritable and confrontative type. You know, darling, we've often met those characteristics in old ladies and young curates' it's what comes of not having a healthy outlet.
DeleteYes, dearest, I share your deep concern about Bellarmine. I very much suspect that what we see of her here is...well...ALL there is to see, really. Rather a rough diamond, isn't she? (More 'fool's gold', I'd say privately.)
DeleteDidn't I spring to your defence over that preposterous conflation, dearest? Remiss of me if I did not. And, of course, I accept your word on this, along with your gentle rebuke.
You have my profound apology.😔
Mad Magna masquerading as her Mammy at 11:56
DeletePolly Dear! I'm Afraid your Mammy has succumbed to DEMMETIA does it run in the family? How anyone could equate the FABULOUS Bellarmine with that poisonous drunken cretin Magna aka Polly who is a real person who loves to impart personal insults to all and sundry but does not like it when others retaliate. I know you've met that type when you were both in the asylum they do rather mirror you both. It is what comes of having dementia, in charity I will continue to pray for you both. Love and prayers B. Eviva Maria!
Dear "Bellarmine", please cease ending your silly Trent-era comments with a salutation to Our Lady. I have a great devotion to the Blessed Virgin but am pained every time I see your sometimes most uncharitable comments ending with "Eviva Maria". I am sure the BVM would not approve of some of your comments; and, I think, St. Robert Bellarmine would also concur from his heavenly throne.
DeleteAnonymous at 14:17
DeleteDear Anonymous I will never cease to end my Catholic comments with the salutation to Our Blessed Lady there is no such thing as a Trent-
era unless your one of those MAD Mods. If you read St Roberts Comments on the HERETICS my comments are not as strong as his. Under her Glorious Title Our Lady Terror of Heretics I'm sure the Blessed Virgin Mary would concur with all I say. Eviva Maria!
14.14 well said here here.
DeleteOur Blessed Mother will be weeping at the horrid anti Christian and certainly anti Catholic.
I am horrified at Bellarmine and Magna the vile that comes out both their mouths is shocking.
It is time + Pat stopped the vile from the three of them
At least Magna does not use Our Blessed Mother or a Saint. but she/he is vile towards the Church.
This Blog must be their Life as they are on at all times Morning Noon and Night.
Anonymous at 14:52
DeleteAnonymous it is Hear Hear not Here Here you cretin. I most certainly have never made a anti catholic comment. Read if you can read St Roberts comments on the heretics, you will find he was more condemnatory than I am. I only comment on ant-catholic and heretical comments and I will continue to do so. Eviva Maria!
Ah ha! Now I've placed Bellarmine - she's Ru Paul!
DeleteCan I get an amen?
Mad Magna at12:49
DeletePolly I too am deeply concerned about you, that I why I am always trying to correct you. I have just remembered there is no use casting Pearls before Swine, but I'll keep trying. Repent and submit to the Holy Church and save your soul. Eviva Maria!
Anonymous at 15:44
DeleteAh Ha! Ive just placed Anonymous she's "Divine" the worst Drag Queen ever!
Can I get An Amen?
Bellarmine LOL hear hear is (listen) Here Here is Bravo Bravo well done so you need learn the difference.
DeleteAnd your correct with the ant as most on here are ants, rats, liars and so on.
You and Magna are on 24/7 sad it seems that's all you can do you Magna and Bill say old all the time.
God Bless you all
Anonymous at 16:47
DeleteHi Teresa.
Ooh handbag fight between Bellarmine and another old queen. One thing's clear, they're BOTH in the lavender mafia. Vivat Regina!
DeleteAnonymous at 18:11
DeleteWell one thing is certain you're certainly in it we can smell the lavender from here. However you should not class everyone as yourself. Teresa is an eighty year old grandmother of twelve and I don't think she would have clue what an auld bugger like you was talking about neither do I you disgusting Fagot! Eviva Maria!
All together now: Eviva Espagna!
DeleteI will pray for you, calling yourself Bellarmine and being so uncharitable.
DeleteAnonymous at 19:11
DeleteI note your not praying or taking to task the low life, insulting me. How uncharitable of you! I take it you've just finished your rendition of Eviva Espgna! Eviva Maria!
Bellarmine- did I read your comment at 18:11 correctly were you committed a hate crime by referring to someone as a "disgusting fagot"?
DeleteNot only is this extremely unchristian but also goes against the teaching of the Church which you seem so graciously eager to support! After all we are all created in the image and likeness of God regardless of our sexuality.
Your comment above should be reported to the PSNI or Garda depending on what jurisdiction you live in and you should be prosecuted for inciting hate. BTW- Eviva Maria!
21.12 it does not matter what jurisdiction you reside in in Ireland or the UK as Hate Crime is a Crime.
DeleteAnonymous at 21:12
DeleteAre you for real? My comment is not unchristian and does not go against the teaching of Our Holy Mother the Church. It is still regarded as The sin crying out to heaven for vengence! No matter what you and your kind try do dress it up. I was replying to your slanderous comment on my character. So see you in court. I am so glad to see you using the salutation to Our Lady unless of course you were just being sarcastic I am prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt such is my charity. Love and prayers B. Eviva Maria! Maria Eviva!
Lol Bellarmine really is bonkers. Actually, people, just leave her alone in her own world and please don't try to infiltrate her mind with anything which might smack of the outside world's values...
DeleteAs an ex-Catholic my own opinion is the Catholic Church is a dangerous place which should be avoided by, well, anyone who values their own dignity and safety. The more Catholics like Bellarmine rant on the more people will see the church for what it is.
I wonder what choice insult she'll have for me before offering me love and prayers.
Viva la revolucion!
Anonymous at 23:10
DeleteSurprise! Surprise! You are an ex-Catholic, in other words an Apostate. You only like the outside worlds values,which are no values at all! Faithful Catholics do have values and we don't want anything to do with the likes of you. Your erroneous opinion that The Holy Church is a dangerous place, believe me the world is a much more dangerous place, as you will find out. You have no dignity all you can do is rant on and on and insult The Holy Church so thanks be to God your an ex Catholic, we are well rid of you. You sound so much like Polly, you could almost be twins. Don't wonder about me offering love and prayers, you don't deserve them. Just carry on to where your going, soon I hope, PERDITION! Eviva Maria!
Will the Blue Army water board him?
ReplyDeleteHe's obviously had a personal meltdown, and I think the christian thing to do Pat is to avoid provoking any further psychotic outbursts from him by banning his posts.
ReplyDeleteI keep in touch with Bill on a most regular basis.
DeleteHe is not in meltdown.
He is thoroughly enjoying his annual leave.
Pat you are factually incorrect with your analysis of Bill.
DeleteBill has been in meltdown for quite some time now!
I invite you to Monasterboice to collect your information and then make judgement.
Unfair your behaviour of late Pat! Bill will drop you like a fly and I'd say that will be pretty soon. Even his posts suggest that and your return posts lead to immaturity on both sides.
A good hiding might bring him to his senses.
ReplyDeleteA most Christian thought.
DeleteSometimes tough love is called for.
ReplyDeleteHow is beating someone up ever tough love?
DeleteWhen you resort to violence you lose the argument.
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ReplyDeleteJust one question
Are you a priest?
No.I'm a bishop.
Delete09.35
DeleteObviously you are neither. A bishop would know that he was a priest also.
A bishop is a priest
DeleteA bishop is also a deacon. A real one, not one of the married ex-teacher permanent type.
DeleteThere’s are different types of whistle-blowers: informers, moles, grasses, tattletales, tell-tales, etc.
ReplyDeleteBP Pat usually describes his stoolpigeons as “contacts”.
At seminarian level, you also have snitches; sneaky evil queens, who on snitch on others purely out of envy and jealousy, for example, 'she got big Mick Lomasney and I didn’t.'
Envy & jealousy - forget them. Sometimes you're ahead in life, sometimes you're not. In the end it doesnt matter.
Delete@09.16 We know what Dolorus Price said about what should happen to grasses.
DeleteAnd we all know (even those who say they don't) what Dolours Price was.😆
DeleteCaffolla's in Lurgan is closing. The big one, not "Wee Caffollas".
DeleteThe big Caffola's is dirty and dingy. The wee Caffolas is far better. Got a fish and chip from the wee one on Friday night being a good Catholic. Lol
DeleteHomosexuality It seems is rampant amongst the clergy,it's a gay church,and this of course leads to much bitchiness,but it's also priests who live a lie,you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time, as the rat on the alter in killdollery has found out
ReplyDeleteThanks David @09.34
ReplyDeleteA charming and not inaccurate picture of seminary life. Ed Condon at Catholic News Agency carries more on McCarrick’s visits to seminaries from the time he was still a priest in New York in early 1970s. Everybody knew then what was going on, but strangely McCarrick’s successor in Washington never heard a dicky bird and claimed at first anyway that it wasn’t a massive crisis! Wuerl now however is feeling a lot less comfortable viz his removal of his self-justifying website thewuerlcontract.com after only a couple of days. He has A LOT to answer for. NB he was Bishop of Pittsburgh, one of the dioceses in the appalling Pennsylvania report, AND he was VERY close to a previous Bishop of Pittsburgh, Cardinal John Wright, who was suddenly kicked upstairs to Rome with responsibilty for - wait for it! - oh, you’ve guessed already: yes, he became in 1969 Prefect of the Congregation for the CLERGY! According to Wiki he thought children as young as seven should go to confession ( which had not been the practice until Pius X opened up this channel of abuse ), so that sinful behaviour might be corrected. He meant theirs not his. If you want to know more, check out online Wright’s disgusting abuse in Randy Engel’s “Rite of Sodomy” - I’m afraid it’s harrowing stuff. Wright was described by Garry Wills in New York Review of Books 05/23/2002 as a big fat baby who loved to cruise round Pittsburgh in his limousine so the gullible faithful could genuflect and kiss his ring - hold the cracks, please! Oh, by the way Randy Engel writes that when she started her research on the homosexual network in AmChurch in 1989 ( yes, 1989! ) she began with a short list of homosexual prelates she needed to investigate including ... Bishop Donald Wuerl of Pittsburgh. By the time “The Rite of Sodomy” was published in 2006, the list had grown to more than 40 American prelates and male religious superiors... and today? And what what tips does Wuerl have on family life at WMOF?
ReplyDeleteI got up extra early this morning in anticipation of Bill's promised earth shattering revelations. Nothing so far. Has he been silenced or punished in any way? It's more likely that like his spineless brothers,the Armagh clergy, he's 'chickened' out.
ReplyDelete11: Bill's full of bull!
DeleteWMOF's key organiser, Cardinal Kevin Farrell, was Cardinal Theodore McCarrick's room mate for 6 years, but claims he never heard as much as a whisper about Uncle Ted's abuse of children, seminarians, young priests and the two settlements worth 6 figures (laity's money of course) - YEAH RIGHT YOUR EMINENCE. Farrell, who is a former Legion of Christ priest, also asserts that he never knew about the Legion's pervert founder's (Marciel Maciel) abuse of seminarians, priests and fathering of at least 6 known children. Farrell's statement has been directly contradicted by another former Legion of Christ member, JP Glennon, who states that Farrell was part of Maciel's inner circle and was part of a group of Legionnaires that titillated Maciel with a pillow fight in pyjamas show.
ReplyDeleteCardinal Donald Wuerl, who is scheduled to speak at WMOF, shuffled around known monsters when bishop of Pittsburgh. These monsters included a paedophile ring that marked their victims with gold crosses so that other predators would know that they were successfully initiated for abuse. One priest, Fr Henry Krawczyk, was transferred by Wuerl despite numerous complaints by parents that he plied their sons with alcohol and made unwanted sexual adavances on them. One of Krawczyk's victims, 19 year old Billy Gaines, was killed when falling to his death in a druken stupor when trying to escape from Krawczyk's house having been dosed with cocktails by the predator priest. Another of Krawczyk's victims committed suicide in 2006 following a drinking session which resulted in the victim awaking to Krawczyk performing oral sex on him the next morning.
The WMOF is a joke, it would have fallen flat on its face without the popes visit. The vatican is a rogue state that tolerates and hides pedophiles. Civil authorities need to take control.
ReplyDeleteCardinal Sean O'Malley, who was scheduled to speak at WMOF but has cancelled because of the rampant abuse in his Boston seminary, received a letter from Fr Boniface Ramsey OP in 2015 which detailed McCarrick's abuse of seminarians. O'Malley's response? He invited McCarrick to a fund raising gala that raised $2 million and then brought him on a week long trip to Cuba following which he stated that McCarrick was wonderful on his blog. O'Malley was also one of the visitators to Maynooth headed by Cardinal Timothy Dolan. Well we all know how that worked out.
ReplyDeleteMr Righteous without any fault @ 11.52 repeating his mantra again on WMOF.
DeleteMr.Blind Fool @ 12:48, I AM NOT A CARDINAL OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CHARGED BY GOD TO BE A MASTER OF TRUTH, WITNESS TO THE GOSPEL AND DEFENDER OF THE WEAK.
Delete@15.02 I obviously touched a nerve or you've laddered your tights with such a rude aggressive loud use of capitals by way of a response. You should calm yourself dear.
DeleteAhhhh another little woman at 15:24.
DeleteIt's a contact sport "dear" 15:24. Some people can't read lowercase letters.
DeleteCardinal Oscar Maradiaga, who is due to give a talk at the WMOF titled Pope Francis on the revolution of tenderness, has called 50 of his seminarians gossips and trouble makers for informing him of the rampant homosexuality in his Honduran seminary. One seminarian told the National Catholic Register that heterosexual seminarians were scandalised and really depressed. Maradiaga also defended now disgraced former Archbishop Juan Pineda to the hilt following Pineda's embezzlement of millions of dollars and sexual assaults upon seminarians. The Pope accepted Pineda's resignation in July.
ReplyDeleteAt 7:17am, Bill was to blog about the “biggest hypocrite in Christendom”. He must have slept in! Lol Or maybe he lives in a different time zone as well as on a different planet?
ReplyDeleteI slept in deliberately because I knew I wouldn't be missing anything. More fool you @12.07
Delete12.07 Bill lives in dream land.
DeleteCardinal Joseph Tobin (also due to speak at WMOF), who heads the Newark diocese in the US, claims he did not know of the settlement paid to a victim of McCarrick when McCarrick was AB of Newark. Tobin was made a Cardinal by the pope following a recommendation by McCarrick. If Tobin does not know about a six figure settlement paid by his diocese's insurer to one of McCarrick's victims, then how can he or his diocese claim that they take sexual abuse by clergy seriously? Either Tobin is completely inept and stupid, as are his accountants, or he is covering up for his pervert mentor, McCarrick.
ReplyDeleteThat’s Tobin who tweeted “night night, love you baby” to his “sister” lol. #dotheythinkweareallfeckineejits?
Delete12:17 How do you know what influenced Francis to appoint Tobin a cardinal?
DeleteIt's called research @14:05! The pope should actually try it sometime before appointing dodgy bishops and cardinals who would not be allowed loose in a McDonald's given their CV.
DeleteYeah I reckon it was his sister most definitely. NOT. Tobin should be sacked from the Cardinalate for his disgraceful tweet to his "baby".
DeleteThe mainstream media - both catholic and secular - have been complicit in this wholesale sexual abuse coverup which has been going on for nearly 100 years. It is now up to the faithful catholic laity to refuse to fund the lavish lifestyles of all these crooked deceitful bishops and cardinals. The Catholic clerical body has been infiltrated by lying homosexuals who do not believe in God and are taking the laity for fools. They have destroyed the spirits, souls, health and lives of thousands of innocent minors, seminarians and adults. Not all homosexual priests are abusers, but the majority of victims are male (81% according to the John Jay Report in the US). It is now up to the genuine priests, bishops and cardinals (homosexual and heterosexual) to keep coming forward, as they are doing in America, and expose these evil men who have lied and connived their way to the top. If Pope Francis had one bit of integrity, he would cancel the WMOF immediately and announce investigations of every diocese and seminary in the world by teams of suitable lay people.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
ReplyDeleteYes, let's cancel WMOF. Catch a grip ffs, as if that's going to happen! Some people on here live on another planet.
Delete@12.17 Why don't you go through the history of everyone taking part in WMOF and delve into their history. What they should or shouldn't have done in various circumstances - that's what you're seeking to do isn't it? Knock all participants down like a deck of cards because nobody should be a sinner. Thats the warped mentality here of people like you. But why did Christ come into the world after all? Was it to heal the righteous and those a cut above like yourself in your own smug little world. It's easy to take pot shots from behind a screen, isn't it? Go on slinging the mud if it makes you feel better and superior.
ReplyDelete@12:43, you are either one of the lying atheistic Lavender Mafiosos or a fool who cannot read English. Away with you now!
Delete13.03
Delete12.43 us right. Pedophilia is unfortunately a sad reality of today as of yesterday. That clergy have been involved should not deflect anyone from recognising its almost universal existence. And the vast majority of offenders are family members of their victims. So, show some awareness of context please.
13.03 Answer the post and don't attack the poster by name calling because you've lost the argument by lowering yourself like that.
Delete14:49, I am far more aware of the context than you. Your assertion that paedophilia is the current problem of the church is completely inaccurate, and is the red herring that has been blithley trotted out by the complicit media for years.
DeleteFact: The John Jay College of Criminal Justice's report of 2004 revealed that 81% of US clerical abuse victims were males, and 90% of these victims were post-pubescent boys. The problem is, therefore, ephebophilia, and not paedophilia.
Not all homosexuals have tendencies to ephebophilia; but it is certainly clear that many homosexuals with this tendency feel that the priesthood is the perfect biotope for them.
And please, do not try to compare lay people with the clergy. This is another trite platitude that has been overused by the Episcopate in an effort to detract attention from their ineptitude and recklessness in allowing their seminaries and chanceries to be overrun by merciless sexual predators.
Are you aware of the spiritual damage these collared predators cause? On top of the emotional, psychological and physical damage.
I'm now getting seriously worried about Bill. Has been assassinated or sectioned or maybe worse? Has he been scared into silence by those down under who know as much about his skeletons as he knows about Coddle's? His autobiography presented here has been very much the abridged and sanitised version. Lots more to come.......or maybe not.
ReplyDeleteCardinal Wuerl is NOT going to attend world meeting of families
ReplyDeleteIt has now been officially announced. Wuerl is not attending. Fr. Michael Commane OP on his blog 'occasional scribbles' has an interesting piece on Wuerl, who was a lecturer of his in Rome in the 1970's.
DeleteWuerl is not going to WMOF - quick quick the world is going to end. Some people have too much time on their hands.
DeleteFuck the loss that that pervo protector Wuerl is not attending WMOF. He hadn't the balls to face the flak like he hadn't the balls to clean up the cesspit of Pittsburgh.
DeletePat Buckley and the Catholic Voice are the only sources in Ireland from which the laity hear the truth with regard to the current state of the Irish church.
ReplyDeleteThe Irish Catholic is a craven lackey for the bishops and is gay controlled as Maynooth is.
Fair play to you Pat, you take some abuse, but you keep going.
Any observer can see that even from the posted comments here alone, never mind the blogs, that the Irish clerical body is rotten.
My sympathy and prayers go to the small number of good priests who have to liaise with such poison on a daily basis.
If that's your idea of Truth then God help you because nobody else will.
DeleteI prefer truth than Laa Laa Land @15:18 any day. There is now a global eruption of truth in the RCC and the laity are beginning to realise that they have been kept in a Matrix by the church leadership for years.
DeleteThe laity have now seen the light and are, and will be, directing their hard earned money to other good catholic causes than to funding endless sex abuse payouts - that now total billions - and keeping the "bachelor pads" in top condition.
I'm sure the Church will still survive without the pittance you probably contribute @ 16.00
DeleteI will still be contributing my "pittance" to the Church 18:33, but will be making sure it's going to a genuine cause other than upkeeping wasters like you.
DeleteYou do that @ 20.53 If it makes you feel better. I'll drink to that.
DeletePay for your own drink 22:28.
DeleteBill.......oh Billy boy! Are you ok?
ReplyDeletePaddy, I am fine , how are you ?
ReplyDelete.....Archbishop Dermot Martin may well not attend either, my apologies, I rarely do it but I slept in after the eve of the Sabbath and all that went with it in Paris last evening .....most particular apology to that sad individual who got up early.....I shall keep the 7's in mind .....
ReplyDeleteWe fear Billy has breen abducted by the knights of Columbanus m, and is in the dungeon of Ely House in Dublin suffering unspeakable tortures!
ReplyDeleteSome Monasterboice Parishioners Have Savaged Their Last Three Parish Priests. John Hanratty let them know in death when he buried in Sandpit. Stephen Duffy was a Saint for what he got through. Monasterboice, its not accidental that it is famous for Crosses. Get off my back you horrible people( They are a few but make their strength felt) . Eamonn Martins brother kept Michael O Neills daughter in digs for years. Eamonn Martin was never done telling me of complaint....from the same quarter all the time.
ReplyDeleteEverything as Denis Paul used to say "Is Personal". Eamonn Martin, you are a disgrace for taking tittle tattle in every parish of this unfortunate diocese and trying to make the priests feel small. There is nothing to you but height...
You're full of shit Billy boy.....all huff and puff........your big revelation is a joke.
ReplyDeleteBill is like the grand old duke of York, who has ten thousand men. He marched them up to the top of the hill, and he marched them down again!
ReplyDeleteDown Under does not like to be threatened by the falsity of your accusations. There is a major difference between me and Dermot Martin. I am not The Archbishop Of Dublin calling in priests or having them called by others to fire them out of ministry when his practices since his twenties were what they were.......
ReplyDeleteHis Grace of Dublin will host the whole affair, and could well be rewarded with elevation to the Sacred College of Cardinals. So dream on Billy boy!
ReplyDelete15.55 Dermot Martin is not very well and has hinted he is standing down before his 75th birthday and he is 73 now.
DeleteThey will likely send in a Archbishop in waiting or maybe transfer someone else in.
But his Grace's health is not too good and just wants WMOF over with.
The Archbishop and his two assistants are all due to retire over next few years.
There is no manual of any kind...nothing in writing at all that is given to an individual when he becomes a bishop in the Catholic Church....nothing....nothing at all. Strange ? Not at all.....clandestine yes for a reason. There is a four day 'Retreat' held a few times a year in Rome for new bishops from around the world. Only one day matters !!!! Thats the day they are 'told'.........a friend of mine, not Irish , told me what he was told.....well you could not make it up. Nothing written down...no manual ..for centuries !!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI for one would love to hear what they are told, so quit the hints and out with it!
DeleteJC regrets his dalliance with Bill..... fearful of outing.
ReplyDeleteBill you don't know me you dose but wise up or seek help.
ReplyDeleteYou are doing what Cromwell couldn't do.
Yes humans have failed the faith.... including you, but the faith is not between God and man facilitated by the likes of you. You have slipped somewhat.
Go somewhere quiet and sort yourself out.
Prayers for you. Honest.
+Pat - the cars being used at World Meeting have been ordered with reserved reg plates - it costs 1,000 EUR extra to reserve a specific number 182 D 9093 (pope backwards) and 182 C 1979 etc. - is this humility or waste? How many hungry mouths would that money feed?
ReplyDeleteThat is nonsense. The Republic doesn't have reserved name plates unlike NI and the UK. deliberate mischief making here!
ReplyDeleteHi Fanny at 16:48, you idiot - as per Citizens Information (IRISH ONE) The fee to reserve a vehicle registration number is €1,000. as per http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/vehicle_standards/vehicle_registration_numbers.html#l62fd2
DeleteGo back to school.
What do you mean "NI and the UK"? NI is in the UK.
DeleteDespite Bill's rant, there is no evidence in the history of Diarmuid Martin's years as Archbishop of Dublin of his "caling priests in" or having others do it and fire them out of ministry. Most departures from Dublin were voluntary and a very few well deserved dismissals. In the course of time it will emerge that Martin was over lenient with several of the 'Antique' disposition who formerly gathered around the long reigning Queen(s) of the Diocese. Indeed most of his entourage was sourced from this nest. As to his Grace's "practices since his twenties": well celibacy is what he signed up for and must be practiced to be perfected. Take that 'down under'.
ReplyDeleteHow do know all this? Do you work for AD of Dublin?
Delete.....the farther backwards you can look the further forwards you are likely to see...so said Winston C. So 16.16, are you referring to Thomas or Oliver...Henry the Eight is the only one I am aware of to pick a fight with Rome and come off the supreme victor....Inis might be just the solution again. He wanted a divorce, he wanted a woman ! The pope wasn't having it. Henry knew what they were up to in their monasteries and it wasn't with women !!!! We were taught about Big Bad Henry The Eight ! He dissolved those monasteries because he knew their sexual practices. Sure doesn't dear old Monasterboice have a downland called Pleasure Hill....and for exactly that reason...linked to the Monastery for the Monks pleasure. Celibacy.....not on your nelly.......
ReplyDeleteI said "Calling" not caling!!!
ReplyDeleteI am actually up yonder at the moment not down under!!!
ReplyDeleteWho is JC?
ReplyDeleteMust be at Notre Dame for six thirty...meet an a bishop , a long standing friend , more dinners from his kindness than ever from the very ordinary Ordinaries of Armagh. Do you know what Brady did when I was 25 years ordained. He cancelled the tradition of hosting a dinner for the Jubilarians !!!! Some Shit he is....!
ReplyDeleteIt has been confirmed that now Wuerl has also pulled out of the WMOF and the publisher of his about to be published book 'What do you want to know' has cancelled the publication. The title of this book is uncannily apt, as there is much that the laity needs to know! The pope now needs to step in and sack him from the Cardinalate and priesthood.
ReplyDeleteThe Fr Zirwas mentioned in the IT by Patsy McGarry was murdered by a rent boy picked up by Zirwas when he was living in exile in Cuba. Zirwas was injected in the base of his skull with poison. Sorry way for a priest to die.
ReplyDeleteWuerl was the chief celebrant, with 21 priest concelebrants, at the Requiem for sadistic abuser Zirwas. Wuerl praised his kindness and assured those present that Zirwas was in Heaven.
DeleteExcuse me very much....I know who JC is........Caveat........
ReplyDeleteDidn't Dan O Connor throw me over the table for crossing the world for love at one of Connells dinners....thats Dan O Connor who headed up Catholic Education in Ireland...He doesn't have a Leaving Certificate....is it any wonder Dermot Martin goes to far flung places lamenting the knowledge of the Faith in Ireland!!!!!!
ReplyDeletePat - I suspect there is substance to some of what Fr Mulvihill has posted lately but it really is time, as the saying goes, for him to 'shit or get off the pot.'
ReplyDeleteBill, if you are going to blow the whistle – now is the time to fucking blow it.
I've had enough of these bizarre - super hyphenated messages followed by suggestive ellipsis......
So he overslept and couldn't deliver on his 7:17 time-slot. I wonder why? And why such a particular time-slot.
Pat, you've mentioned several times that you’ve been in contact with this man and you find him well. You’ve also mentioned that only a doctor is qualified to comment on his mental health. That is, simply, disingenuous. You are a man of considerable experience and you cannot honestly claim that the tone, style and content, of Bill’s messages are consistent with a man who is a good place ‘mentally’.
Again, that is not to say that Bill’s messages don’t contain truths or elements thereof.
@ Bill – blow the whistle.
Without Wax, Rev CM
Rev C M go and say your prayers
DeleteYeah Rev CM piss off and say your prayers. Trying to subtly undermine Fr Bill whilst allowing some possibility for truth; most gracious of you. With Wax indeed you slimeball.
DeleteMy representative in the East will contact Noel Barrett tomorrow.......ring fence a small matter maybe.......pay attention Dermot Martin...you had dinner with him, did you not ???!!!!!
ReplyDeleteSui Sanctitas,
ReplyDeleteYou would be wise not to come, Segnor Cardinale dal Irlanda.......bad boy....
The photos will be around for a long time!!!!
Guillaume
17.32 has been identified by my people as a threat......
ReplyDelete17.51
ReplyDeleteHave you ever heard of "Delayed Gratification ", its a good discipline!
Your people? Do you mean your aunties and uncles?
ReplyDeleteI don't think my mind was ever on the same plain/plane/plan as most contributors to this blog. You are welcome to talk to Trinity College about my sanity should you wish. If you let me know who you are, I shall give you the details. Also, the archives at UCD can be consulted, Chamberlains papers contain the most amazing report on me...of course the Church destroyed it..it was so glowing....but the report exists for posterity...the rarest of personality types.....male and female equally balanced...very rare and consequences...nevertheless I was/am very proud. Also Professor Ball in Melbourne now retired....Melbourne wanted to make sure they were not getting a dud....They rested that they were not.....Maybe those diagnosing me including Martin could do some work on themselves...they might be surprised how "odd" they are .....
ReplyDeleteThe Church( and its many co-dependent members) has always tried to pathologise those who speak against it from within. No more to say on that one.
ReplyDeleteI don't usually ask a question out of ignorance but here goes; " Does Cardinal Farrell Know Father P.J. Bonner ?
ReplyDeleteYou have got to admire, however grudgingly, the brass neck of the ACP. It is made of, mainly, of a generation of clergy who have brought the Irish church to the state it is in; and they think that THEY can be the solution! LOL.
ReplyDeleteThe first thing Pope Francis should do when he comes to Ireland is to boot every whinging and whining member of the ACP out of the Catholic Church and tell them to fuck off and join the Moonies where they would feel very at home apart from their lost laity paid salaries.
DeleteDear 21.04, your post is a shining example of lucidity, charity, argumentation and balance. In short, an indictment of the poor state of theological debate and the dire need for higher education in theology.
DeleteBill has them quaking! The launndry in Ara Coeli is working overtime to get their kaki underpants white again. Keep up the good work.
ReplyDeleteGrateful Armagh parishoner
We need a machine to wash out your khaki coloured mouth phantom Armagh parishioner! Get back behind your net curtains you nosey old hag.
DeleteI must say ....A Bientot.....I have to attend to matters Hebraic !!!! Shalom Shalom.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone on this blog does anything illegal or transgresses Data Protection in any Jurisdiction, the weight of International Law will visit them. There are those charged with identifying I.P addresses under these circumstances. If your I. Q. is not up to it, get advice before you blog . 7.17 tomorrow.
ReplyDeleteMad Billy at 19:18
ReplyDeleteWhat's all this attending to matters Hebraic? you should be attending to matters Catholic are you trying to tell us something.?
Elvis has left the building!
ReplyDeleteIt is reprehensible that Accord made the decision to counsel safe sex couples in order to secure TUSLA funding. Instead of standing up for the Catholic faith, like Judas they took the 30 pieces of silver. Now I see all these Accord members speaking at WMOF. Who made this decision? Is it the Bishops, and why are they not been held accountable. I am sick of the cowardly leadership being shown at episcopal level They will be chirping about family at WMOF when they have not stood up for it on home shores
ReplyDelete@21:09 the WMOF has been hijacked by gay bishops and cardinals who have co-opted the Church for the LGBT movement. I and many other Catholics I know will be keeping well away from this gayfest.
Delete21:46
DeleteYou won't be missed. Go read the Gospels.
Are you hoping to resurrect and revivify Humanae vitae? The vast majority of catholic faithful have chosen to vote with their feet - so to speak - on this one.
DeleteAgreed, it seems that the higher you go up in the Church, the less you believe in God. I fail to see the point in the whole WMOF event. Why did Pope Francis not speak out for the unborn before our referendum, he goes around the world for all other so called social injustices, I find that hard to reconcile
Delete@21.46 Yes, you keep away! We will cry in our sleep over your absence.
DeleteIn relation to Humanae Vitae, the Church no longer preaches morality, so how would the faithful even know about it, or have the choice. Sin is no longer preached apart from some notable exceptions.The World has evangelised the Church instead of the other way round
Delete22:15, I have read the entire Bible and try to live my life according to its dictates. The LGBT lifestyle is the anti-Gospel in that it is anti-life.
Delete22:19, I am not surprised that you brought up Humanae Vitae as the LGBT lobby hate the Church's teaching on contraception which reflects the fecundity of God and is in direct contradiction to the sterility of the gay lifestyle.
22:22, don't worry, I will not be endangering my or any of my family members' souls by attending the so called World Meeting of Families.
Are we to join the dots between Francis, Danneels, McCarrick, Barros, Tobin, Murphy-O'Connor, Maradiaga, Wuerl?
ReplyDelete@21:41 You seem intent on assigning guilt whether by association or randomly. So fire ahead.
DeleteYes we will get you a little join the dots book.
DeleteDaneels, CMOC, Maradiaga (abuse enablers) were the chief cheerleaders for Bergoglio at the conclave. Francis appointed Maradiaga as head of the C9. Francis insisted on appointing and retaining abuser and enabler Barros, despite the objections of the CDF. Francis appointed Tobin "nighty-night baby, I love you". Francis took two days to respond to the Grand Jury report which sharply criticised Wuerl who is still hanging on. Washington archdiocese has secured Jones Day, an elite Washington law firm that costs $50,000–$70,000 on retainer per month, to defend Wuerl in the face of public attacks.
DeleteMcCarrick was also a lobbyist for Bergoglio.
DeleteYes. But really the dots join and end in one point: you don’t like Francis. Tough. You’d better get used to him. Viva il papa!
DeleteI'm having the last laugh, 10:55. I booked a coachload of tickets via the website for Humble's Mass and of course I and my phantom coachload are not going. LOL
DeleteThe dots all join into one dirty line of filth. May God help and protect his Holy Catholic Church from these gangsters.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget to add in Cardinal Cocopalmerio and Fr Mauro Inzoli.
ReplyDeleteI wonder if these scandals will affect admission numbers this year at our sick seminary, Maynooth.
ReplyDeleteThere will be a few new sluts applying no doubt.
DeleteOnly a Pope can force out a Cardinal. expressly. If Wuerl is still the Archbishop of Washington it is because Pope Francis wants him to be the Archbishop of Washington. Wuerl's resignation from that office was submitted more than two years ago.
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