Wednesday, 11 April 2018

MEANWHILE IN ARMAGH...




THE ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHBISHOP OF ARMAGH - EAMON MARTIN - HAS BEGUN AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE ALLEGED SEXUAL ABUSE BY A PRIEST OF THE DIOCESE, OF A WOMAN WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AFTER A COMPLAINT WAS LODGED BY ONE OF THE WOMAN'S CHILDREN.

The alleged abuse is not recent and goes back to twenty or more years ago - but the priest is still in ministry in the archdiocese.

The alleged relationship in question appears to have had a very profound effect on the whole family.

I have been aware of the allegation for many years as the woman in question approached me many years ago and claimed that the priest had taken advantage of her.

At the time I wrote to Sean Brady about the alleged abuse and I also put the woman in touch with several other women who had been in what they themselves described as "abusive relationships" with both diocesan and religious order priests. 

That began the formation of a group of women called "Bethany" - a support group for women who claimed to have had abusive relationships with priests.

One of the founders of Bethany was a Cork woman. She came forward in the wake of Bishop Eamon Casey scandal.

Cardinal Cahal Daly had said on RTE Radio that my claims that there were hundreds of such women in Ireland were malicious rumour-mongering.

The Cork woman was incensed by Daly's comment and range RTE and stated publicly on the radio that she was "another one of the malicious rumours".

Another founding member was a woman from England who had been abandoned by an Irish priest who had also given her two children.

Another still, was a Northern Irish woman who had been involved with a religious order priest who was involved with three women at the one time - a married woman, a widow, and a nun.




This priest had worked out for himself that he was "spiritually married" to the nun and that allowed them to have penetrative sex. He generously restricted himself to non-penetrative sex with the married woman and the widow.

I once introduced two women in the Munster area so that they could support each other. Over dinner one evening they discovered that they had both been sleeping with the same priest. They later nicknamed him "Father Rabbit".




Today, I have written to Amy to say that I will be available to be interviewed in the course of his current investigation.


The whole issue of priests having relationships with woman and fathering children was a much bigger issue in the past when the Catholic priesthood had more heterosexual men in its ranks. 

Nowadays with seminaries and younger priest being mainly homosexual, it is probably a lesser issue.

But I suppose that even today the odd heterosexual man manages to get himself ordained. 






154 comments:

  1. I'm a young priest and am not gay, but have committed to celibacy with holiness and healthy bounderies. The evil of men took advantage of a power platform and abused. We priests have a choice, just as married men, to be honest to our vows and promises. I choose to stay faithful to Christ, to have healthy honest relationships with men and women, the keeping of healthy bounderies and balance my life with prayer, Mass, Netflix and my dog. Living out a healthy priesthood is a daily process, working on any demons that come along and fighting through them prevents the need to fall to temptation and actions of power and vanity. I enjoy being a priest.

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    1. You don't wank, then, Fr Unbelievably Perfect?😆

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    2. haha Magna. I’d say he watches more than Netflix after a hard day. Soprano in the shower.

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    3. I actually wanted to ask if he masturbates. Serious question.

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    4. In first year Maynooth the Spiritual Growth councellor told us to stand naked in front of the mirror, get comfortable with ourselves and not to be afraid to 'touch' ourself because it is natural. Better to masterbate than to be a frustrated auld pr1ck.

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    5. How vulgar 10:53. Many of us don't. We have lives.

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  2. I remember reading St Therese's comment on Roman Catholic priests in her so-called 'autobiography'. She said something like she had naively (and dear Therese was nothing if not naive) believed all of these w****s were 'crystal clear', morally speaking. I couldn't help imagining an implicit WTF! in her comment as she had since, and obviously, discovered to the contrary.😆

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  3. Those two women who knowingly slept with priests are disgraceful. They share the blame.
    What do I think of the priests who were involved? Even more disgraceful by far....

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  4. Stop the sham... Any woman who goes on to have two children with a priest is a fool! Did she never learn the word "No!"
    No point in running around playing the innocent when he walks off and leaves you. You behaved equally irresponsibly, woman!
    Don't take us all for fools. You were stupid, extremely stupid and now you are paying the price.
    You were not a minor, a child victim for which I would have the utmost sympathy. You were meant to behave like an adult. You didn't. Instead of expecting sympathy you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself for not walking away from him and never turning back.
    As I say, cut the crap!

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    1. 01:20 (of the sexually involved woman) 'You were stupid, extremely stupid, and now you are paying the price.'

      Not one word of condemnation from you for the priest w***e who betrayed his vow/promise of celibacy, and then, like the odious moral coward and self-serving pond-life he was, he betrayed this woman, too, and the children he fathered.

      Yes, you have a sound moral perspective on this one, you halfwit.😆

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    2. Typical MC abusive name-calling remark when he cannot abide some poster having the courage to call it like it is!! What's new...

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    3. '...the courage to call it like it is', 13:15? What of the HONESTY to tell the whole story? This would include what I said about that priest, wouldn't it?

      Another... You aren't a priest in a similar situation, are you? Or were you?😆

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    4. 14.01: Magna - one big heap of crap. Guess the beers, gin and wine have drowned your moral compass. You are a disaster. I hope to God you are not in a relationship of any kind, or that you will never have such a blessing. You are a FILTHY CREEPY ABUSER -WITH A PORNOGRAPHIC MIND

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    5. 14:58, please don't damn me with such pale praise!😆

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    6. @14:58 you need have no fear there - Maggie isn't in a relationship of any kind!

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    7. Apart from his relationship with his hand, of course.

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    8. 17:22, can't deny it. I am celibate, and always have been. Unlike others.

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    9. Except with her own reflection and its perceived perfection, I dare say (@ 17.22)

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    10. Mags you said in other blogs on +Pat's site you regretted “using” women and implied that you engaged in sexual activity with women. How come now you’re saying you are and always have been celibate. This doesn’t add up.

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    11. Nobody will be surprised at this because the reason for your celibacy is very obvious.

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    12. Magna, 18.04: Thank God you have finally told us you are "alone" (celibate): what a curse you'd be in any relationship. As for comment at 14.58: to that should have been added: AN INVERATE, DANGEROUS ON-LINE ABUSER, believing it's ok to behave so obnoxiously. Pat should cease facilitating his bucket load of hatred, bigotry, racism etc.

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    13. 18:30, what 'doesn't add up' here is the reliability of your memory. Those references to women were about sexual activity BEFORE my seminary days, when I was a teen.

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    14. @18:30 bravado, sheer bravado. In a strictly moral sense Maggie has no doubt known many a woman but not in any actual sense. I will repeat that his personality suggests strong conflict in his relationship with his parents, although mummy was doubtless a very strong, nay indomitable character and this relationship is key to his personality. I'll tell you something else : it was she who wanted him to be a priest.

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    15. Mrs Brown's Boys is almost a documentary.

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    16. MC you're celibate? Isn't celibacy just a socially acceptable way of being left on the shelf?

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    17. Magna 19.32: Those poor girls must have been blind or else you had a facelift every time you proposed to them. If they could see you now. They'd take flight. Poor sod that you were, are and always will be.

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  5. It is sad that you were proved right Pat. Should the police not be doing this Will A M want to speak to you

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    1. Sean, I've noticed Pat never replies to your comments, questions, etc? :/

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    2. It's not very ecumenical on Pat's part to ignore comments and dubia from one of our seperated brethren.

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    3. 18:04, 'separated brethern' is just one of those euphemisms conjured up by Roman Catholic historical revisionists in denial of their past. Would be more honest (and historically more accurate) to say 'driven-away brethern'. By whom? Why by a corrupt, morally debauched, simony-steeped, pre-Reformation Roman Catholic Church!

      Just sayin'; not shit-stirrin'.😆

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    4. ".. separated..."

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  6. The shaming of the Catholic Church in Scotland continues. The sentencing of Fr Paul Moore yesterday for multiple child abuse offences and the actions of one of the abused,waiving his right to anonymity,has exposed the activities of senior church figures as scandalous.
    One of the victims alleged that they way he was treated by the Catholic Church was appalling. Cover up, denial and passing the buck was the order of the day. It seems 3 different bishops are involved here. Shameful!
    Is it any wonder people are leaving in droves.

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  7. Why do you call him Amy? That is just name calling Pat.

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    1. If you'd ever spent more than five minutes listening to the man and watching his gestures, you wouldn't have asked that question.😆

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    2. The man is as camp as a row of tents.

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    3. So what's your point? - - It's OK to call people names if you don't like their gestures and the sound of their voices - - Is that how you see it?

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    4. 13:19, no, it is NEVER 'OK to call people names'.

      My comment was an explanation of WHY Ab Martin is sometimes nicknamed 'Amy': it was not a defence of it.

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    5. Amy is a nickname given to him by some of his priests.

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    6. The "apology" had to be dragged out of Pope Humble (who always has the media nearby to record his ostentatious "humble" acts.

      I cannot wait the publication later this month of the revised edition of The Dictator Pope. I'll send a free copy to +Pat with the hope that he reviews it.

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    7. Junior Oratory lol

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    8. I meant Junior Infirmary, lol, lol.

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  8. Pat, the reality of some priests engaging in a sexual relationship with women is not a new revelation. The fault isn't always onesided as you claim. Any abusive relationship is abhorrent and no one should ever have to stay in such a situatiin. I don't know the facts or statistics to prive that the situatiin is as prolific as you say. Yiu must valudate your assertiins with facts so that we know the full truth. However, I think any priest who is abusive to any woman is morally reprehensible and should be challenged and reprimanded, even placed aside. As always, there are two sides to such stories but facts/clinical data would be useful for true debate.

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    1. I’m sure Pat will produce any facts to an investigation that is currently being conducted by the Archbishop of Armagh. If Eamon Martin chooses not to call upon Pat as part of this investigation then it will be pointless conducting one and will be without any transparency.

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    2. 11.20: And you believe everything Pat say, thinks and prints. Why should he be called upon with such a hatred driven agenda against his former Church? Reliable - don't think so. And let's be honest here - some women chase priests and cause trouble. Those women who are genuinely hurt should be treated with respect, decency and kindness. Some are telling lies.

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  9. This is the least of Armagh’s worries. Watch this space for more controversy to come and it doesn’t involve women or heterosexual clergy.

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    1. Please don't tell us that bestiality is on the next Armagh bulletin.

      (But then, there are a lot of lonely sheep in the diocese.😆)

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    2. Magna @ 10.55 You have one warped and sick mind. You are just pure filth and trash. I don’t think that disgusting term you used was ever referred to or insinuated. It tells us what a sicko you really are - a piece of excrement to be precise.

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    3. 13:06, so I have 'one warped and sick mind'? Well, that's Maynooth for ya. Had never heard so many references to 'sheep shaggin'.

      As for guys wantin' t' shag me...😲

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    4. Well after a while celibacy takes its toll and a man can get really desperate. That said I'm sure the only guys who would want to shag you would only be prison gay.

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    5. 18:41, so you know 'prison gay', do you?

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    6. Yes I do. I also recognise prison bitch material when I see it. Just think, Maggie, your chance for a meaningful relationship.

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    7. Magna 19.39: Why you constantky degrade yourself is a mystery to all of us. You are slut material and yes, a nasty, foul mouthed w***e, fit for trailer trash. You deserve the opprobrium given to you.

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  10. + Pat I do not for one second think it is correct for any Clergy or Serious seminarians, and that also includes Religious Orders anyone that has take Vows of Celibacy should take a look at themselves and if they cannot keep their Vows then their number is up sooner or later it is a current curse in the Church that is in the process of being cleaned.

    The Pope down to the Laity wants Holy Catholic Clergy and would even have a smaller number of clergy and parishes to make this happen as mentioned on your blog yesterday a smaller number of Holy Priests and Religious.

    Abuse of power and that is how Paul Moore got a bigger sentence yesterday (9 Years) and rightly so for abusing Children but that sad thing is it took THREE bishops to get to the latter stage.
    The Church will be better with Good Holy Men that can stick to their vows rather that be like KOB born hypocrites.
    I for one will NOT standby and watch these Priests destroy the Church and its Good Holy Priests.

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    1. 'Holy Priests', 09:38? You sound like one of those mawkish, clerically sycophantic, prayer pamphlets written before Vat II... . No! Vat I!😆

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    2. The female Judge yesterday highlighted the fact that Paul Moore has shown no remorse whatsoever for his actions - how sad is that? Reminds me of that slime and sleaze Brendan Smyth.

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    3. 10.51: The hateful viper, Magna has emerged from under his rock. A man rotten to the core. Sleazey specimen.

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    4. Yes, 13:26, I'm a bad, bad boy. And when I'm burnin' down below and you're lying in the bosom of Abraham, in a threesome with your pal Lazurus, you'll beg Father Abraham: 'Please Father! Can't we help? Look at him down there! Can't we make it hotter for him?'

      Yes, no wonder people, so many of them, have given up on Christ. Because 'sleazy specimens' like you, 'rotten to the core', offered them nothing but hypocrisy.

      Just sayin', like.😆

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    5. 13.55: Getting to you at last Mags! See how viperous a thing you are! Perhaps you'll have a real spiritual awakening one day. Quoting and transcripting long sentences from encyclopaedias doesn't impress or convince any of us that you may have some humanity. You're a degenerate. Just saying', like!!

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    6. So many exclamation marks, 14:43. You gay?😆

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    7. In Maggie Carta's world use of punctuation indicates sexual orientation. What a prick.
      So many emoticons Maggie. Your a ��

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    8. Mags, viper at 15.15: sorry, I'm a true male, hethero, manly man. Disappointed? And I'm not available for your delight. You are disintegrating before us, morally, spiritually, ethically, humanly. You rage all you like if it gives meaning to your life as I suspect your world is weird, bizarre and abnormal.

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    9. @17:51 your comments will dent Maggie's fragile masculinity �� he likes to think only he is the real manly man round here and will engage in masculinity contests.
      Mostly with women.

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    10. Magna drives a van, is a roofer, smokes, drinks, goes to the bookies at lunchtime, has the odd fight.

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    11. 18.44: Magna engaging in masculinity contests - not with real men surely? More likely in contest with wild boar? Imagine the viper Mags running for his life - what a laugh.

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  11. Can we just clarify that there is no such thing as “God’s Holy Church” - Jesus nor God created a “Church” the Church of Rome was established well after Jesus and if Jesus came around today he would think the carry on in the “Church” was alien. Jesus brought a message of Good News. He did not bring instructions for establishing a Church in Rome.

    We do not need a “Holy Church” with man-made law to follow Jesus. That is done quite easily without a “Holy Church”.

    Humans need something to cling onto.

    For the many many people the “Holy Church” failed through its two thousand year history it is quite obvious that this is no “Holy” place never mind a “Church”

    Some say it was bad priests who let the church down. That’s correct. Men - humans - not Jesus.

    Jesus has no part to play in the failings of some clingers on to the dysfunctional institution based in Rome.

    We are invited daily to live out the Gospel. That does not mean we have to go to a Holy Church. We do this in our interactions - daily.

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    1. 12:31
      The consensus among NT scholars is that Paul’s letter to the church at Rome may be dated to the second half of the 50s of the first century - so around 25 years after Jusus’ death. It is easy to argue from the letter itself that the church was there quite some time before that.

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    2. 15:33, you're absoluetly right about the consensus of scholarly opinion on Paul's letter to the Romans, and about the pre-existence of the church; but not as the Roman Catholic Church.

      The Greek word in Romans that we read as 'church' in English does not mean 'Roman Catholic Church', as many understand it today, but something entirely different: it meant simply 'assembly'.

      Jesus spoke Aramaic, and in this language there was no word for 'church'. The word most likely used by Jesus was 'eidutha', which would translate in English as 'witness'.

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    3. @12.31
      You have got yourself into a nonsensical twist haven't you?
      Lots of silly nonsense and half-baked notions. You make it up as you go along I think..

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    4. 18:24 Nonsense.
      1. How would you know anything about scholarly consensus on any subject.
      2. ‘Church’ is simply one of a host of Teutonic/Germanic cognates to translate Greek ekklesia and Latin ecclesia. Assembly or, literally, the gathering of those who have been called out.
      3. You speak of Aramaic in terms of the past. It’s a living language with more than 600,000 speakers.
      4. Aramaic has a perfectly good word for ekklesia, namely, qahal. They both share the concept of calling (out).
      5. No point in attempting to pass yourself as having any knowledge of biblical studies, biblical languages, theology, or the history of Classical to Late Antiquity. Wikipedia-fuelled and long-winded ramblings are useless.

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    5. Not so useless as yours, 10:41.😆

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    6. By the way 10:41, 'qahal' is not an Aramaic word: it is Hebrew.

      And it is not a direct translation of the Greek 'ekklesia' any more than the Hebrew word 'Mashiach' is the direct translation of the Greek 'Christos'.😆😆

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    7. 12:43
      A dunce would recognise the verbal link between qahal and kaleo. The former, a Semitic triliteral and the latter its Greek equivalent both mean ‘to call.’ Ad ek (out) to kaleo and you have ekklesia.

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    8. 01:46, and an educated person would know that 'qahal' is a Hebrew word, not an Aramaic one.

      But then, you're obviously not such a person, are you?

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    9. You've "owned" Magna.

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  12. I am appalled at yet more abuse within Armagh, especially with a vulnerable adult. I am the mother of two teenage Sons who struggles to persuade them each Sunday to go to Mass. How can I be expected to do that when we have constant scandal going on in Armagh. I was shocked a few weeks ago when one of my Sons said he didn’t want to go to Mass anymore as the young priest kept staring at him during Mass and in his words “ undressing him with his eyes”. I can’t prove anything of course but why should a young teenager feel so uncomfortable attending Mass, young people pick up on things better than I maybe would. If he doesn’t go to Mass now on a Sunday I can’t say anything to him after what he’s told me which really knocked me sideways. I can’t even tell my husband or he would go mental. To read about this scandal today involving here in Armagh again, it’s shocking.

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    1. Here's what to do. Name the priest in an anonymous comment here. Pat will keep hold of the information until there is enough evidence to publish.

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    2. There are alternative explanations: (a) coming up with an excuse to get out of going to Mass; or (b) the teenager is imagining it. It’s entirely possible that the teenager might be right, but it’s by no means a certainty.

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    3. Bring your son to the priest and confront him. Or go and have it out with that priest yourself.

      Tell him, ‘Fr, my teenage son feels that you are staring at him, undressing him with your eyes. Why would he be thinking that? Is it true?’ Words to that effect.

      That would solve it. However, I strongly suspect, as with a lot of what is said on here, your scenario is an imaginary/fabricated one. Perhaps you are a pervert fantasing over a teenage boy being drolled over?

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    4. 18.48 You are a perfect example of the Priest in question, trying to deflect away from the situation by rubbishing what people say. You certainly fool no one because the Clergy are good at deflecting away from the issue, covering it up and denial.

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    5. 18:25, what? So the guy is imagining that this priest is staring at him too much for his comfort during Mass?

      Behave yourself. (Duh!😩)

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    6. Ad Orientum would solve the hungry eyes problem.

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    7. @ 19:47, the teenager is subjectively interpreting a behavior. For all he knows the priest might be staring at the person behind him or their might be a clock on the wall behind where the teenager sits, or any other number of possibilities. The only person who can accurately explain the behavior is the priest. What the teenager is doing is giving his subjective interpretation which may or may not be accurate. As I said, it’s entirely possible the teenager is correct, it just not a certainty that he is based on the information provided.

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    8. 19:41 how in the name of holy and sweet Jesus do you deduce that?

      I’m suggesting, if the poster at 12:54 has a genuine concern and actually exists, that she/he confront the priest and scunder him!!! That will cool his f***ing ardour.

      What’s the use of writing about it on here? Go and confront the f***ing priest and ask him what he’s playing at!! That’s what you do!

      Writing about it on here is about as pointless an exercise as a body could engage in. The priest (again if this is real and not a made up situation) will just keep ogling young lads otherwise. Call him out to be f***ed!

      Swear to God some of the people on here - more brains in a tin of pea soup.

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    9. Your son has a vivid imagination.. Takes after his mother, by the sound of it.

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    10. 21.54 You don’t have much imagination at all you fool.

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    11. That so called concerned mother is outrageous. Attributing sinister motuvations to a priest who is looking at the congregation. Her son is looking for an exvuse andcsoon his mother, by the sound of it will accuse said priest and ruin his lufe. I think the poster at 12.54 has made up a story. It's outlandish and were she to whisper anything in her locakity, she should be sued for slander. She's an f*****g fool. Approach the priest and ask him - if she has courage.

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    12. 20:22 Ad orientem actually.

      And you are probably a fan of the 1570 Latin missal!

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    13. The 1570 Missal just codified a rite which in it's essentials dates back to antiquity. The Novus Ordo was a committee job, with Protestants on the committee and the deeply suspect Bugnigni banished to Tehran as Nuncio for reason or reasons unexplained. The Novus Ordo has been surprisingly popular, especially among the young.

      Not.

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    14. 18:12
      The essentials of the Roman rite are four verbs : took, blessed, broke and gave. They go back as far as the last supper, itself based on berakah.

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  13. @12.31
    Sorry , but there is quite a lot of homespun heretical theory in this comment... Not to be taken seriously as the counter arguments and proofs are well documented again and again over the centuries and from much more well-respected sources.

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    1. Okay 13:08 - like the proof that St Paul was even in Rome ? You have your sources and I have mine. In the words of your own Pope. If you’re not well see a doctor. Don’t use the “Church” to cure you of whatever disease of the mind you might have.

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    2. 13:08, give us them, then, if they are 'well documented again and again over the centuries'.

      That adverbial qualifier, 'over the centuries', counters YOUR argument, since it suggests the documentation you mentioned came from men, not from the man-God, Jesus.

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    3. The utterly stupid reply shows that once more, Magna Carta is confused and completely out of his depth . I will be surprised if the OP wastes any more time trying get through to him. I wouldn't bother ..

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  14. I see Francis is eating some humble pie - well deserved if we are to be honest.

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    1. Yes, he's been reading this blog.

      Francis is going for maximum global coverage on this one, which is why he wrote to the Chilean bishops first, and not to those he actually offended with his precipitate words, the abuse survivors.

      Yes, Francis is first a consummate politician before he's a... I was about to say 'consummate pope' there. Sorry: slip of tongue. Non-Freudian.😆

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    2. 13:24 Nothing new or unusual for a man of humility like him. You’ll find much to ponder on in his new exhortation on the call to holiness today published this week.

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    3. 15:25, nothing unusual? We can agree, then, that Francis doesn't usually display the humility to apologize to people he so obviously offends.😆

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    4. 16:45 If you were asked to leave the seminary it must have been before the introductory course in logic.

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    5. 17:59, if you could read (never mind understand logic), you would know that my comment was related not just to that at 15:25, but also to that at 13:24. The latter had Francis eat just 'some' humble pie, but not all of it. The idiom expressing humility (or, more likely, humiliation) is 'to eat humble pie', not to eat SOME of it. So if Francis isn't eating the whole pie, then he really isn't expressing genuine humility, is he?

      Hence my comment at 16:45😆😆

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    6. Carta, clear off you boring, priggish fool.

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    7. 15.25 Nothing humble about his appalling attitude towards those clerical abuse survivors! Let's be honest now. Remember Francis was taught to believe that calumny is a mortal sin. Shame on him to bandy that about with survivors - in public - denouncing them as pope! God sees all.

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    8. Francis eats a lot (compare the before and after photos since becoming Pope) but it's certainly not humble pie.

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    9. 20:08
      Francis was never taught that any action alone was a mortal sin.
      It had to be accompanied by (full) knowledge and (full) consent.

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    10. 18:14 You ste scraping the bottom of the barrell by seeking to draw attention to someone’s weight.
      Post a picture of yourself and we can judge whether the same holds for you.
      Or do you not subscribe to the sauce for goose and gander maxim?
      Grow up!

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  15. Bishop Pat, your blog today brings back some hurtful and painful memories for me. I know the woman you refer to you and tried to help here some years ago. I was asked by a Priest to visit this vulnerable woman at 3am because a fellow Priest of his had been having relations with her and basically dumped her. She was very distressed but I managed to calm her down eventually. I took her the next morning to Ara Coeli in Armagh requesting we speak to Cardinal Daly. After a long wait he eventually agreed to see us but was visibly annoyed that we had interrupted his breakfast. I was of the impression that he was uninterested in what the woman had to say because of his facial expressions. We both never heard from again, the woman and I went our separate ways, I was later advised to leave my Convent and I never heard from the woman again. I know the Priest who is involved and I would be happy to break my anonymity by participating in any investigation. I was reluctant to speak out before after I was effectively banished from Armagh, I even contemplated speaking out to Stephen Nolan over what I view as a cover up by Cardinal Daly, Cardinal Brady and Armagh.
    Your blog today has brought back many painful memories, I only hope that woman now gets the justice and closure she deserves. Please pass on my prayers and good wishes to her, if you would like I can contact you with all the details I know plus documentary evidence I still possess. (The Real Sr. Mary) Thank You.

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    1. I hope you have the courage to speak out now about this, but without identifying the woman and her family. You must first seek their permission.

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    2. A MEMBER of the family has already launched a formal complaint with Any.

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    3. Magna @ 14.25 I think it’s clear from what Sr. Mary says she was not identifying the woman or her family in any way you moron and idiot. Before you engage your drunken tongue in future you’d be better reading posts more carefully.

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    4. Carta, would ye ever feck off ya gobshite. The woman isn’t stupid. She knows she has to get permission.

      She doesn’t need an interfering, nosey aul wh*** like you offering advice as if she’s a gombeen.

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    5. 15:29, I meant speaking out on a platform wider than this blog, like Nolan Live (as this woman seems to have suggested).

      You moron. (I shan't, like you, add 'idiot'. It would have been tautological, which you clearly wouldn't understand.😆)

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    6. So that should be a real lesson to anyone who imagines, even for a moment,that the "real St Mary" is a person to whom you could disclose a confidential matter. She is not!
      Obviously not to be trusted. Thank God she doesn't "possess" any "documentary evidence" of mine to wheel out when she wants to play the "I'm so important" role and draw attention to herself! Ugh..nasty .

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    7. Carta is a presumptious, pompous, pedantic prat.

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    8. @18.31 I suppose you are another one that would rather see abuse covered up rather than exposed. Attacking the character of the Real Sr. Mary you have exposed yourself as an abuse enabler. I know who I’d rather trust and it isn’t you.

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    9. 18:41, it that's a circumlocution for 'smart', then I accept the compliment. Humbly, of course.😆

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    10. Hey Carta - go boil yer head!

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    11. I wouldn't trust that so-called "real Sr Mary" to empty my bin!All that talk of "passing on" information to people she knows nothing about! She is obviously just a nosey busybody. If other people want to be naive, that's up to them. I am not

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    12. 21.45 The fact the Real Sr. Mary is happy to contact Pat directly gives her more credibility than your anonymous utterances, I know who I would believe and it isn’t you. Maybe you’re too naive to put your own bins out.

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    13. 22.22
      I am afraid I disagree with you and agree with the poster @ 21.45
      He/she sounds much more balanced, caring and considerate, especially with regard to other people's personal information. Your jibes are nasty and hollow.

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  16. The Medjugorje vision praised Fr Vego as a man of outstanding holiness though he was shagging a nun. Maybe Fr Rory isnt as big a sinner as we think?

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    1. Which visionary? Vicka? Sounds like something she might say.

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    2. The word is 'fraud', not vision.

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  17. Too many comments to scroll past from mc today.

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    1. Well Pat is obviously happy to have him p*ss over his blog, so let him ruin it. That's so clearly what Carta is about.

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    2. Your CPN, Sally, I'm calling out to see you in the hostel next Tuesday at 14:20. Did you not get my text? I know that your tablet has been playing up.

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    3. Lol I doubt he manages to keep many appointments

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    4. My bad. No wonder that I could only make contact with my service user Magna via this blog.

      He is in Ward 8 in the Downshire Hospital (again!!!). Though we are forced to call it the Shimna ward nowadays. Chin up, Magna!

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  18. I'm quietly confident that this now rarely heterosexual priest scandal does not involve Revv Coyle & McCamley. I wonder who'll organise the Armagh pilgrimage to Lourdes later this year?

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  19. Ladies and Gentlemen - let’s remeber the good clergy like the priest in Ennis who was threatened by a vagrant man who told the good and well respected and very much liked parish priest that he would 'cut his throat' during a physical altercation.

    This man received his just deserts and is now in the safe custody of the Irish Prison Service.

    That is what our clergy are dealing with. Negative reporting such as some comments on here fuel this type of hatred against the clergy including the very many good priests who live their holy priestly vocation daily.

    Amen

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    1. The Clergy bring it on themselves @18.37 because through recent disgusting behaviour by some, they are far from being good or holy.

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  20. Dermo and Amy are in Enniskillen this weekend. Please would someone explain the difference between Primate of Ireland and Primate of All Ireland?

    https://www.clogherdiocese.ie/2018/04/service-of-thanksgiving-in-enniskillen-for-blessed-john-sullivan-sj/

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    1. I suspect that the titles were used prior to Partition. Is it the case that most of the northern dioceses cross the border? The Irish dioceses are older than the Irish counties.

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    2. Original Magna are you a loyalist or republican?

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    3. 20:35, Mags is a royalist and a through and through Thatcherite. An acerbic old queen ya see.

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    4. The word All is the difference, Dermo second in command but thinks he's the Boss!

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    5. It must stick in Dermo's craw. But under his watch it's probable that despite the big overall population figures, there are more Massgoers in Armagh diocese than in Dublin diocese. Well done, Dermo!

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  21. @18.51 I’m sure the resident Curate Queen in Enniskillen will be dressed in all her finery for the occasion. No expense spared in the clerical attire department, nothing but the best, in fact the best money can buy.

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    1. Canon Peter O'Reilly is the only Clogher Canon to have a full purple cassock. He also wears Gamarelli surplicese and £700 a go chasubles from America which he used to lend to Joe Duffy.

      Ask Peter why he justifies living in the big parochial house in Enniskillen while the presbytery across the road is mostly empty.

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  22. Brendan Marshall is pregnant Pat ;-)

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    1. I wish to make it clear I'm not the father

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    2. DNA test result on Jeremy Kyle.

      It's either King Puck or Ronan Sheehan. If it's King Puck's, Sheehan is leaving Marshall.

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    3. How will Amy deal with this scandal? Will she be on the Jeremy Kyle show Pat?

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  23. @2017, I hear his Babe, King Puck is the Father.

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    1. Will Rev Michael Byrne be the Godfather?

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  24. Pat have you learned nothing from the last few years. Why write to a bishop of what you knew. It is straight to the PRSI in Northern Ireland or the Gardai in the Republic you should have gone to.

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  25. Absolutely. The proper action to take is go to the police/Garda.

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    1. Don't, whatever you do, let Sean Brady take the witness statement.

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  26. Far too many paragraphs from mc to be scrolled past today.

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